Please Help!!!! Mods, Vets, Others.

[N-8]

Sorry to be so dramatic, but I am very worried and need advice quickly. So please read this and if possible, offer some assistance.

I'm 25 years old, 5'11". 200 lbs.

On Oct. 22nd I started my first cycle ever. 20mgs Anavar/day. In week two I bumped it up to 30 mgs/day. I was unhappy with the results so I added in 20 mgs Dbol/ED during week three along with 25 mgs of Proviron/ed.

After 3 days on the Dbol I noticed some early gyno symptoms, so I started 40 mgs of Nolvadex and upped the Proviron to 50 mgs/day.

The symptoms went down, but I still felt uncomfortable, so I aborted the cycle. I stopped the Dbol after 4 days, and I tapered down the anavar pretty quickly. something like 30mgs/10mgs/5mgs/5mgs/0mgs/5mgs - over six days.

In the past week I lowered the Nolvadex dose to 20 mgs/day and the Pro to 25 mgs/day.

This past Saturday (11/17) was was my first day without anything. However on Sunday (yesterday) the Gyno symptoms returned, only this time, much worse, (a very puffy right nipple and some sort of "worm" or "chicklet") present there.

So today I have been taking 40 mgs nolvadex and 50 mgs proviron again.

Is this Estrogen rebound and should I take clomid? and if so, what kind of dose?

Should I look into getting something else? I can get Liquidex.

also, I have been taking Propecia for the past several months for MPB with no sides. Could this be affecting it?

So please, IYO what should I do?


Thanks for any help.

 

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[leb007]

All I can say is 'Strange'. Can't believe you got affected by gyno so quick, especially after 4 days of using dbol. Also on Anavar it's almost of unheard of to get it... are you really sure? Or are you just freaking out? i really don't know what to say without seeing you..

Leb
'size does count'

 

[Torch]

Sounds like you are very prone to gyno.

Since you didnt take the dbol for very long and Anavar will not completely shut down htpa. I would not run the clomid just yet.

Keep with the Nolva and proviron. Liquidex will not hurt, although a bit expensive, well worth the money. You dont want to pay for a $3000 surgry do you? And since you are gyno prone it will be a wise investment. You know you will be safe for you next cycle.

Maybe just try an Anavar only cycle next time and see how that goes.

What kind of anavar was it?

 

[N-8]

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Thanks for the replys.

I know this doesn't make much sense. When I first got gyno symptoms almost two weeks ago I started with the Nolva but really thought that I was just being paranoid. You know, causing my own soreness by constantly testing for lumps, etc.

The thing is, when I went off the Nolva, I was relaxed and confident that the anti-E's worked so I wasn't testing myself for Gyno as often.

But then having the symptoms return, I just don't know.
It is very sensitive, but then again, I have been on it constantly. But the shape looks different and the texture is a lot smoother.

also, the lump is not beneath, or underneath the nipple itself, it is actually off to the right a bit.

This is getting close to being a worse case scenario for me right now.


I was using Ttokkyo products. The Dbol's were loose. The anavar was factory sealed, hologram and everything.

How long should I run the Nolva for?

Thanks again.

 

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Please fellas.

 

[liftsiron]

How old are you? Teens are more prone to gyno. If I were you I would add 200mg test a week along with the nolvadex this has been a time tested and proven method to combat gyno, it will not make it worse. It may however get worse anyway and you may need to get cut. Though from what you described I think that you have a better than averege chance that it will go away. Keep the proviron in the mix as well after six weeks go on clomid. Do a search on clomid so that you know what your doing.