Please comment on my second cycle!

[nashtnman]

I'm planning a second cycle to begin sometime in September. I'm considering running the following:

weeks 1 - 12 Sustanon 500/week, taken in 2 injections
weeks 1 - 10 EQ, 400/week, split into 2 doses, combined in the same needle as the Sustanon
weeks 11 - 12 Clen, 100 mg/day
weeks 1 - 12 Nolva, 20/day
weeks 1, 4, 8, 12 HCG

My goals are to get good, keepable gains with a minimum of bloat, and to inject just twice a week.

My first cycle was 500 Sustanon/week, and 30 dbol/day. I gained about 15 pounds, but I bloated more than I would like to.
I'm 46, 5'10, and weigh 190.

Any comments or suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Silent Method]

At your age I'd have a doctor monitoring you during each step of your cycle. Especially being you're going to be taking about a gram of juice a day.

I was going to suggest a-dex daily instead of nolva every day. However, I'd check your cholesterol first. If your levels ore ok and your blood pressure is good, using a-dex could be a great way to reduce bloat - as well as other estrogen sides.

A good anti-e routine suggested to me and used for my first cycle was 25 mg of proviron a day for three week intervals divided by nolva at 10 mg per day at ten day intervals. It might be a good idea to hold off on the nolva unless you see/expect gyno symptoms.

As for clen, do a search. Two weeks on/two weeks off is ussualy prescribed. As for the HCG/recovery stuff, I'd discuss it with your doctor.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

I think most suggest using the HCG about halfway through then toward the end of a long cycle. I am not sure if you need HCG in week one or week four. I would do some more homework on the HCG, it should be used in lower doses spread over 5-9 days. HCG can cause gyno if it is used improperly. I don't mean to tell you things you already know, but I just thought I would mention a few things on the HCG.

 

[genarr4]

At your age I'd have a doctor monitoring you during each step of your cycle. Especially being you're going to be taking about a gram of juice a day.

I was going to suggest a-dex daily instead of nolva every day. However, I'd check your cholesterol first. If your levels ore ok and your blood pressure is good, using a-dex could be a great way to reduce bloat - as well as other estrogen sides.

A good anti-e routine suggested to me and used for my first cycle was 25 mg of proviron a day for three week intervals divided by nolva at 10 mg per day at ten day intervals. It might be a good idea to hold off on the nolva unless you see/expect gyno symptoms.

As for clen, do a search. Two weeks on/two weeks off is ussualy prescribed. As for the HCG/recovery stuff, I'd discuss it with your doctor.

Excellent advice.

 

[slobberknocker]

"Especially being you're going to be taking about a gram of juice a day."


Looks to me like he's on less than a gram a week. Maybe that was a typo.

 

[Silent Method]

"Especially being you're going to be taking about a gram of juice a day."


Looks to me like he's on less than a gram a week. Maybe that was a typo.

500 mg + 400 mg = 900 mg. That's about a gram in my book.

 

[slobberknocker]

I agree. Per week. You said he was taking a gram a day though.

 

[Silent Method]

I agree. Per week. You said he was taking a gram a day though.

Uhhh, yeah. I missed that - twice!

 

[nashtnman]

So is it okay to mix the Sust and EQ in the same needle?
And to only inject EQ twice a week instead of every day?
That's what I was wondering most about.
Thanks!

 

[nuh_mizer]

I wouldn't take the nolva through the whole cycle. Save it unless you need it. You shouldn't bloat much off what your taking. Also, you might want to try splitting up the sust injections so you take it every other day that way you get more from the short acting esters. Others have done that and liked it.

 

[babbabuee]

I like that cycle, looks good to me. My second cycle test enan/EQ much the same as yours without the clen and nolva.

 

[Silent Method]

So is it okay to mix the Sust and EQ in the same needle?
And to only inject EQ twice a week instead of every day?
That's what I was wondering most about.
Thanks!

Yes and yes.

The only reason to inject EQ every day would be if you were using a weak concentration or, if using a stronger concentration, were seeking to take a very large weekly dose.