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planning out my first cycle, possibly my second too, advice needed!

Ghalex

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Age: 21
Height: 5'8
Weight: 180
BF%: 6-8% (when i start)

hey guys. ive been training natural for over 4 years now, and have decided i want to start a cycle. im aware of the consequences, and the dangers. but i feel that im ready. id also like to include that i am already naturally infertile, and that risk is not one i need to weigh.

Im currently cutting down for the summer down to 6-8% BF. I plan to maintain that until October 2013, which is when I start my first cycle:

Wk 1-12 test E = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
Wk 1-12 aromasin 10mg ED

PCT
15 to wk 19
Clomid 75/50/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20


I was considering switching test E with Cyp, or Prop, and adjust the weeks accordingly. any opinions on which is a best for a first cycle?
should i include aromasin in the PCT as well?

I was considering hcg as well, but I've had people tell me to save it for later cycles. that and, to be honest, temporary testicular atrophy doesnt bother me lol.

this will be a strictly bulking cycle, I want to put on as much mass as I possibly can, and then cut again in Spring 2014. Should I start my second cycle at that point as well? Or just cut naturally?
If I were to do a second, cutting cycle, what would you recommend? I was considering Prop, anavar, and clen

Im afraid of losing any of my gains from the cycle, especially since Ill be cutting so soon after PCT. But at the same time, I feel like it might be a bit too soon to start a second cycle? Unless I use prop first cycle, in which case my first cycle would have ended earlier.. any opinions? Should I use just clen for next year's cut, will that help me hold onto the muscle i made in the cycle?
 
Hold your horses buddy, no need to rush. Slow down on thinking about the second cycle and let's concentrate on the first.

Ill start by saying 21 is too young but you think you're ready and obviously don't care about your hormones or nuts. Your words lol. I honestly wouldn't advise doing this if you think there's still room to grow and you haven't quite reached your genetic potential. It's your life

Test at 500mg EW isnt necessary for the first cycle. Do it at 250-350 so you're not burning out the receptors. Use the aromasin on cycle, and forma stanzol in pct. HCG is important. Don't listen to whoever gave that bad info. There's no noticeable difference between test e and c. One of Those would be best for your first cycle. Save prop for later. Your pct is crap. Nolva is crap. Clomid is dosed too high. Go to mr supps and look through the pct product section. You can also search the forum here for a good pct, they're everywhere. Regarding your clen question... I you value your heart health, I would strongly advise you stay away from it. We don't condone it's use on this board. The bad strongly outweighs the good with that chem. Diet and good supps is all you need. Hope that answers your questions
 
Hold your horses buddy, no need to rush. Slow down on thinking about the second cycle and let's concentrate on the first.

Ill start by saying 21 is too young but you think you're ready and obviously don't care about your hormones or nuts. Your words lol. I honestly wouldn't advise doing this if you think there's still room to grow and you haven't quite reached your genetic potential. It's your life

Test at 500mg EW isnt necessary for the first cycle. Do it at 250-350 so you're not burning out the receptors. Use the aromasin on cycle, and forma stanzol in pct. HCG is important. Don't listen to whoever gave that bad info. There's no noticeable difference between test e and c. One of Those would be best for your first cycle. Save prop for later. Your pct is crap. Nolva is crap. Clomid is dosed too high. Go to mr supps and look through the pct product section. You can also search the forum here for a good pct, they're everywhere. Regarding your clen question... I you value your heart health, I would strongly advise you stay away from it. We don't condone it's use on this board. The bad strongly outweighs the good with that chem. Diet and good supps is all you need. Hope that answers your questions

thanks for the advice!

so should i do

PCT:
Forma
Clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5

and hCG wk 1-12 250iu twice/wk day before injection?

 
I agree with jb, and like he said, it sounds like you have made up your mind.

If you obtain 5000iu of HCG, you would dose it at 1250iu a week, split in 2, during your last 2 weeks of cycle and through the 2 week cruise before PCT.

Then PCT;
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed,Post Cycle
Forma Stanzol

And, just a rule of thumb; Cycle+PCT=Time off
 
a bit off topic but those stats for a 21 year old who has been lifting for 4 years are ridiculously impressive.. put up a pic cause I am curious to see what you look like. with those stats you would destroy any regional NPC if you dropped a few pounds

either you have some incredible genetics or you are off on those stats
 
here's a proper pct

pct

Unleashed/post cycle combo IF OUT OF STOCK SUBSTITUTE WITH test INFUSION AND FORGED POST cycle AT MRSUPPS.COM
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM

optional

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com

ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com
 
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