planning my 2nd cycle

[shadzzz]

Alright, so I'm 21years of age. Been lifting for 5 years, over 3 without having stopped. I got a good base - tennis on court for 7-8 years, basketball for 2 years, half an year grappling. I'm currently at 87-8kg, a bit less than 10% body fat. Right now, I'm coming off a injectable winny 50mg eod 40mg var 6-week cycle (wanted it just to maintain some mass during cut). Diet of course is always in check.
Anyways, I'm looking forward to my next cycle which will be in 2-3 months time from now, so I'm starting to plan it. I'm looking for lean mass, I don't want to get onto hard compounds such as dbol and deca or get a very bulky and bloated look. I'm looking for a not-so-rough cycle. Only compounds I'm considering for now are winstrol, test e/p, anavar and masteron.
So, here it is:
week 1-10 Test P 100mg eod
week 6-11 60mg Anavar ED
week 1- 9 HCG shot E4D (250IU per shot, I guess) so I recover natural test faster after cycle
week 11-15 40/40/20/20 nolva + 100/100/50/50 clomid
going to get some glutamine at 25g daily on pct aswell

Taking anavar up to week 11, so I can start my therapy 7 days after my last test injection and just after I've finished up my var.
Give me your thoughts on my cycle

 

[shadzzz]

bump

 

[SRTank]

most guys in here would tell you to drop novla as its very bad and run clomind at 25/12.5/12.5/12.5

 

[shadzzz]

Had some more thoughts and came up with this, I think it looks better than the one I had planned. 2 of my friends are going to run exactly the same with me
week 1-10 test P 150mg eod
week 6-11 50mg Winstrol ED
week 1- 9 HCG shot E4D (250IU per shot, I guess) so I recover natural test faster after cycle
week 11-15 40/40/20/20 nolva + 100/100/50/50 clomid
going to get some glutamine at 25g daily on PCT aswell

 

[C0LUMB0]

no need for 2 serms in your pct, nolvadex will not raise your test levels or restart your hpta.

clomid at 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 ,UNLEASHED + POSTCYCLE, and some hcgenerate - run these 3 Right thru your pct until the bottles are finished.

not sure why you are adding glutamine to your pct, but you can use creatine at this stage.

use the glutamine in your PWO shakes .

 

[gymjunkie09]

most guys in here would tell you to drop novla as its very bad and run clomind at 25/12.5/12.5/12.5

yep, post cycle/unleashed combo and low dose clomid will be just as effective without the sides

 

[dylangemelli]

to be honest, your just so young, its such a bad mistake that you are making... you are wasting so many good years of natural gains that could be made and using receptors at an early age which will hinder you later when it may be harder to make gains naturally... your going to do what you want, but trust me, its a mistake... the problem is that young guys see other young guys make gains and it looks great at the time, but noone thinks long term and everyone thinks in the now...

i'll tell you this, you need to follow exactly what columbo mentioned for your pct because as you have it set up, it fucking sucks...

and i know you've never pinned so you should know that test prop is pretty much one of the most painful injections that you can do and most people only run it 8 weeks... fuck half of the experienced users can't take the pain on it... so that alone is not a wise move... your going to be pinning prop EOD and its probably going to cause you a good amount of pain so be prepared for it... you also need to run n2guard along during the time you run winstrol to protect yourself from the toxicity, protect your liver and bp... You also make no mention of any AI at all??? you realize you need to at least have one on hand right???

 

[gymjunkie09]

.. yo you also need to run n2guard along during the time you run winstrol to protect yourself from the toxicity, protect your liver and bp...

so important, i never run orals without n2gaurd, tren either for that matter

 

[shadzzz]

i'll tell you this, you need to follow exactly what columbo mentioned for your pct because as you have it set up, it fucking sucks...

and i know you've never pinned so you should know that test prop is pretty much one of the most painful injections that you can do and most people only run it 8 weeks... fuck half of the experienced users can't take the pain on it... so that alone is not a wise move... your going to be pinning prop EOD and its probably going to cause you a good amount of pain so be prepared for it... you also need to run n2guard along during the time you run winstrol to protect yourself from the toxicity, protect your liver and bp... You also make no mention of any AI at all??? you realize you need to at least have one on hand right???

Cousin pinned testp and could take the pain, I 've pinned winny which probably hurts less and it wasn't that bad.
My bad for not mentioning, I'll be taking carsil (liver supplement) throughout the whole cycle.
Thanks to every response, I really value it. I'm definately getting unleashed/post cycle to help me recover apperantly clomid won't do it by itself.
I thought I don't have to worry about AI when taking winstrol

 

[squatzilla]

Shadzzz you don't need to juice @ your age. 87 kg isn't bad but how tall are you? What are your max lifts?
Mods please change my name from Squatzilla to 'The Broken Record'. lol