hutch1980
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Does anybody think that when you hear of these massive gains from OTC's, it is a type of placebo effect? Don't get me wrong, I am ordering diesilbolan today, so I am not a hater. I just think that for some, when they decide to go ON an otc, the user reels everything else in. You know, get the diet, training schedule and other supplements (mostly an serious uptake in protein). I am some what guilty of this myself. I know the gains are there, but do you think users get a little more serious when on cycle? Any thoughts?

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