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Slice of Peach2

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I know Photoshop, but I am having a problem importing a PS jpeg into a Microsoft application.

I am trying to design some business cards so I can get some web design business. I made this really kickass logo in Photoshop, saved it as a jpeg. When I opened the file in MS Publisher it looks very very pixelated.

What can I do in PS to make it not so pixelated in a MS application?

I make text graphics all the time in PS and they look beautiful on the web, I just don't understand why I can't import it into Publisher.

Help!
 
Slice of Peach2 said:


Like a bmp? I will try that. Thank you for the help.
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Try to save as a tif . Not as familiar with publisher but have messed with it and it is a pain in the ass (not good for graphics.) I would save as a tif image and take it to a print shop and have the cards made there.
 
The problem with your jpeg being pixelated is that when you save the picture in a jpeg format the compression you are using is to great. Use no compression and make sure that you have created the picture with at least 300dpi. That is, if your picture is 2 inches by 2 inches then you should have at least 360,000 pixels total.

What is the resolution of the original picture? And its size (l x w)?

If you send me the pic in its raw form I can fix it for you.
 
what is the size of the image when it is in photoshop...if it is very small it will look pixelated in publisher.....also either save is as a high quality jpeg or another form like bmp or psd..hope this helps
 
Stay away from bmps for graphics art work, they are very costly in terms of size and needed memory/storage. Also, tiffs, gifs, etc.

In fact, if you save it in PS native format, that would be the best for importing and printing if your other program recognizes it. If not stick with jpeg and no compression.
 
Image size is irrelevant as long as you have enough pixels for the size you want.

Something like this, twice the resolution of whatever your output device. Most experts shoot for about 267 dpi. With a home printer, you can shoot for 300dpi. If you go more than this you are more than likely wasting ink and time.

I print pic's at 72dpi for web stuff (not required) and 300-600 for photographs.
 
It is text graphic. Nothing fancy, just beveled and textured.

I think I made the image 200 x 25 px, font size 14, 72 res. If I make it 300 dpi it is too big to work with.

I will try it as a tif and as a bmp. If I cannot get it to work, I will ask to send it to you, Chesty. :) You are so sweet!

I made some business cards with the MS clipart, just wanted to use my own graphics.
 
chesty said:
Image size is irrelevant as long as you have enough pixels for the size you want.

Something like this, twice the resolution of whatever your output device. Most experts shoot for about 267 dpi. With a home printer, you can shoot for 300dpi. If you go more than this you are more than likely wasting ink and time.

I print pic's at 72dpi for web stuff (not required) and 300-600 for photographs.
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Okay, maybe I should send it to you. It is not much.
 
chesty said:
Stay away from bmps for graphics art work, they are very costly in terms of size and needed memory/storage. Also, tiffs, gifs, etc.

In fact, if you save it in PS native format, that would be the best for importing and printing if your other program recognizes it. If not stick with jpeg and no compression.
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This is true, but my suggestion was for to save it in a tif format if you bring it to a print shop. This is what we did on a regular basis for us and our clients and it worked well at a web marketing firm I recently worked for. I tried before to import a .psd file to publisher and it would not take, but your suggestion regarding jpeg would probably work. I also agree with you regarding staying away from bmp for graphics. They are large in size and not ideal.
 
You are right on the tiff format as my last 35mm neg scanner, a canon 2710 saved files in tiff format and one of the settings on my nikon scanner is for tiff. But I have found that tiff can present problems down the road, so I save at max quality, and when I start to tinker with the photo I first save it as a psd and always work then with this file till I am ready to print or publish.
 
smallmovesal said:
what about png?

apparently tiffs are best for word and stuff like that though.
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png doesn't work either, I did the same logo in Fireworks and all Fireworks saves as is pngs and I got the same pixelated effect. :(
 
hmm well i'd suspect tiff is best because i was told when i asked this week that tiffs are common in word and stuff like that.. pamphlets and things....
 
chesty said:
You are right on the tiff format as my last 35mm neg scanner, a canon 2710 saved files in tiff format and one of the settings on my nikon scanner is for tiff. But I have found that tiff can present problems down the road, so I save at max quality, and when I start to tinker with the photo I first save it as a psd and always work then with this file till I am ready to print or publish.
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Yeah I do the same thing. I'll save as a .psd the master and then make duplicate, flatten it, and save as tiff, gif, or jpg to see how it looks on print media. Even though it takes up space I will sometimes leave the original as a .psd file and continue to duplicate for different variations on the same theme. Depends on what the work is for.
 
Microsoft doesn't make it hard, you just have to be consistant in what you do and know that it will only do what you tell it to do.

If I can find it I will post a before and after pic of a 10 year old photo resto I did a while back.

chesty
 
smallmovesal said:
hmm well i'd suspect tiff is best because i was told when i asked this week that tiffs are common in word and stuff like that.. pamphlets and things....
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Tiff images are common with most print shops for print media. They usually request you save it to that format before sending to them.
 
I didn't, my Photoshop teacher was the debil. :mad:

He is a photographer and he wanted us the show him design. He didn't teach us crap about Photoshop.

I bought this great book on sale called Photoshop for the Web. It had some cool ideals for buttons.
 
Slice of Peach2 said:
I didn't, my Photoshop teacher was the debil. :mad:

He is a photographer and he wanted us the show him design. He didn't teach us crap about Photoshop.

I bought this great book on sale called Photoshop for the Web. It had some cool ideals for buttons.
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Get the classroom in a book series from Adobe Press. Very in-depth for learning photoshop.
 
Also try Photoshop 6 for windows by Deke McClelland. Great book!
 
Haven't seen that one. But I am sure it is good. Just have to really play with it until the basics sink in. Takes a while.

Some are good with photos and some are good with graphics (non photo's)

I have been using it for about a year now and it is the coolest program ever. I have only touched on about 10% of its capabilities.
 
I recommend all you graphics people to take an image processing course or to get a book on it. It can be a bit math intensive, but it'll teach you a lot about images that your Photoshop For Dummies book won't. I recommend "Digital Image Processing
by Kenneth R. Castleman". You'll learn why jpegs are evil for print.
 
I don't use the books for dummy's.

I would use CorelDraw instead of illustrator. (personal preference) I have been using that one for about a year and find it much more intuitive than Illustrator. Of course I learned Corel first so that might be why.
 
Slice,
I am a web programmer/developer
TIPS
Never use JPG or GIF for print. They were designed for compression purposes and to be viewed on a monitor.

RULE OF THUMB
JPG= photo
GIF=graphic

DO you have any examples of your work?
 
JPG uses a DCT (discreet cosine transform) in 8x8 blocks to do it's encoding in YCrCb or YUV space. It's designed for photos with smooth continous colors (low frequencies) which is why it looks like ass when you try to use it on anything with high frequencies (text, logos, etc.).

GIF was designed for 8bit palettized images. It has 0 use in this day and age. Use PNG.
 
I use jpg for print all the time and for photographic work and it cannot be dicerned from an actual photo.

Also, the top of the line professional digital cameras, Nikon, Canon D30, etc all save there pictures in an uncompressed jpeg format.

Bitmaps, tiffs, pngs, etc are all extremely bulky and do not offer anything over an uncompressed jpeg.

It mostly depends upon your medium of delivery for web stuff, I would use jpegs that are compressed, for graphics I would use the gif.

I really don't see a need for tiff or bitmaps except for the links to the past.

Almost all of the reports that I create use jpgs as well. They give the best overall screen presence and when printed, out perform the bitmaps and tiffs.
 
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