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Anyone here on EF ever use this stuff and have had success? I'm interested but I have heard mixed reviews.
 
We're talking lipostabil here, right?

I went through 17 amps of that shit before giving up. Got nothing from it.

I wonder if this concoction includes all the other ingredients the int'l sites do?
 
Dermatol Surg. 2004 Jul;30(7):1001-8. Related Articles, Links


Detergent effects of sodium deoxycholate are a major feature of an injectable phosphatidylcholine formulation used for localized fat dissolution.

Rotunda AM, Suzuki H, Moy RL, Kolodney MS.

Division of Dermatology, University of California Los Angeles, David Geffen School of Medicine, Los Angeles, California, USA.

BACKGROUND: Phosphatidylcholine injections are becoming an increasingly popular technique to treat localized fat accumulation. This formula is composed primarily of phosphatidylcholine and sodium deoxycholate, a bile salt used to solubilize the natural phospholipid in water. The mechanism through which this injectable phosphatidylcholine formulation causes localized fat reduction is unknown. OBJECTIVE: To investigate the active component and mechanism of action of an injectable phosphatidylcholine formulation in clinical use. METHODS: Cell viability and cell membrane lysis assays were performed on cell cultures and porcine skin after treatment with the phosphatidylcholine formula, isolated sodium deoxycholate, or common laboratory detergents Triton-X 100 and Empigen BB. In addition, we described the histologic changes after injection of these substances into porcine tissue. RESULTS: A significant and comparable loss of cell viability, cell membrane lysis, and disruption of fat and muscle architecture was seen in cell cultures and tissue specimens treated with the phosphatidylcholine formula and isolated sodium deoxycholate. These findings were similar to the effects produced after treatment with laboratory detergents. CONCLUSIONS: The phosphatidylcholine formula popularly used in subcutaneous injections for fat dissolution works primarily as a detergent causing nonspecific lysis of cell membranes. Our findings suggest that sodium deoxycholate is the major active component responsible for cell lysis. Detergent substances may have a role in eliminating unwanted adipose tissue. It is advised that physicians use caution until adequate safety data are available.
 
Phospholipids for weightloss? hahahahahah what a joke.


(phos·pha·ti·dyl·cho·line) (fos²f[schwa]-ti²d[schwa]l-ko¢l[emacr]n) a phospholipid in which choline is attached to the phosphate group of phosphatidic acid by an ester linkage; it is a major component of cell membrane and is localized preferentially in the outer surface of the plasma membrane. Abbreviated PC. Also called lecithin.
www.merckmedicus.com/pp/us/hcp/thcp_dorlands_content.jsp

Another name for lecithin.
www.enzy.com/glossary/searchresults.asp

a compound consisting of glycerol, fatty acids, and phosphorus; as a nutritional supplement, this compound has been shown to have a hepatoprotective effect
www.hepcchallenge.org/choices/glossary.htm

Lecithin is usually used as synonym for phosphatidylcholine, a phospholipid which is the major component of a phosphatide fraction which may be isolated from either egg yolk (in Greek lekithos - λεκιθος), or soy beans. It is commercially available in high purity as a food supplement and for medical uses.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphatidylcholine



If anyone has any REAL evidence to advocate the dramatic weight loss, then be my guest to enlighten me.
 
Yeah u inject 3ml per side once a week with a slin pin. U just spread out the inj at .5ml per spot for a total of 6 injects on one side and 6 on the other. Its just a slin pin so that really aint nothing. I saw some guy posted pics of some bruising he got but he attributed it to not injecting deep enuff. Im thinking some bruising is unavoidable tho? But i dont really know? Something id research before plunging away tho.lol

No disrespect taken bro. Nothin i plan on using. It was given to me. Im just researching it. Its what i do.lol
 
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Ive seen studies that state it works, yet im hearing people got nothing from it?

Of course real world experience can tend to be off, so i just question whether it was used properly.

Ya know the kind of real world experience where someone tells u that the test they injected is dirty yet come to find out the injected it through there sweat pants and never cleaned the vile. Or the moron who gets his gear at the gym and runs right to the bathroom to inject it without using alcohol.lol heard that one too before. Actually heard this directly from these individuals and then later heard them trying to blame the gear.lol
 
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