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HappyScrappy
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most people get pain from it.
and it is pgf2a I think - but maybe I'm thinking of something else.
I personally just had to shit and want to puke while on it.
saw lots of swelling, muscles were bigger, pumps were huge - but my lifts went into the toilet.
it makes you look good, but you feel like shit...
and it is pgf2a I think - but maybe I'm thinking of something else.
I personally just had to shit and want to puke while on it.
saw lots of swelling, muscles were bigger, pumps were huge - but my lifts went into the toilet.
it makes you look good, but you feel like shit...
Big Brother Val
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If I could vote twice I'd say I loved it and hated it.
Loved the muscle gains, fat loss.
Hated the side effects.
Plus... 66 shots a week wasn't any fun either.
Loved the muscle gains, fat loss.
Hated the side effects.
Plus... 66 shots a week wasn't any fun either.
Big Brother Val
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Fever, sweating, cough, shakes, stomach cramps, tightness in the chest, rash, sever muscle pain, and liquid shitting episodes to rival the one seen on "Dumb and Dumber".
Never lost any muscle after coming off.
Fat came back as my diet got worse.
But it destroys fat cells. So you don't gain back the fat you lose. Just depends on your diet/training.
Never lost any muscle after coming off.
Fat came back as my diet got worse.
But it destroys fat cells. So you don't gain back the fat you lose. Just depends on your diet/training.
In my opinion, the negatives highly outweigh the positives.
Big Brother Val
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I agree el jefe.
Better growth, and almost as much fat burning with Fina... and considerably less shots, with no pain or other sides. No comparison in my book.
Better growth, and almost as much fat burning with Fina... and considerably less shots, with no pain or other sides. No comparison in my book.
To tell the truth, it is great stuff as long as you do not mind the pain or the bathroom visit after the injections.
I will also add that Big Brother Val was a nut while he used the stuff and used dosages fit for a cow (which it is, ironically, made for).
If you stick to 2-3 injections per day and inject each bodypart 2-3 times per week, you should love the results.
I will also add that Big Brother Val was a nut while he used the stuff and used dosages fit for a cow (which it is, ironically, made for).
If you stick to 2-3 injections per day and inject each bodypart 2-3 times per week, you should love the results.
Big Brother Val
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2Thick is right. Myself, Ranger, and Jeff did up it a bit. But if you gradually increase in dosage, the sides don't worsen, but they don't ever get any better either.
I ended up shooting muscles twice a day, instead of three, and only shooting 3 times a week, and still got good results.
I did like the results, as I said above. Just hated the sides.
Now that I've seen what Fina can do for me, I don't think I'd ever use PGF2a again.
I ended up shooting muscles twice a day, instead of three, and only shooting 3 times a week, and still got good results.
I did like the results, as I said above. Just hated the sides.
Now that I've seen what Fina can do for me, I don't think I'd ever use PGF2a again.
notpuff said:
PGF2a
"Originally made to be a fertility and abortion drug for livestock PGF2A has become the newest drug to enter the world of bodybuilding. Sought after due to it's fat loss and "localized muscle growth" effects, its non-hormonal actions make it the perfect drug for bodybuilders to use during their off-cycles when they are allowing their natural hormonal levels to return to normalcy."
--Excerpt From EliteFitness's Chemical Wizardry
brianharper94
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If it was only once a day injections, then I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Big Brother Val
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On 75 mgs ED of Fina, I lost a good deal of bodyfat, almost an inch on my waist, but still gained 7 lbs. Vascularity improved, as did strength. I've been off for over a month, and have lost none of the size I gained, and am still more vascular than I've ever been naturally. Not to mention it had none of the pain, shits, or any other sides PGF2a has.
I took it by itself, and got some of the best results I've had from a cycle. I even prefer it to my beloved EQ, though I'd like to stack them with test and see what happens then.
I agree, though... every few months a new compound becomes all the rage here. It's nice though, for those of us who don't grow well off test, and get Gyno from Deca. Fina is outstanding. I highly suggest you try it, bigman.
Big Brother Val
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It's not legal to administer to humans. I didn't need a script when I bought it.
Brian- once a day isn't bad... but remember... the shitty sides last around 2 hours. So once a day will still put you out for a little bit.
Brian- once a day isn't bad... but remember... the shitty sides last around 2 hours. So once a day will still put you out for a little bit.
Big Brother Val
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I can't remember the specifics on weight gained. But I put on 1/2 inch on the arms in under two months. Lost a great deal of bodyfat around the midsection. Over an inch.
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Big Brother Val
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As far as cost... around $30 for a 30 ml vial from a vet supply. Who knows what a source would sell it for. Maybe double that.
Here's some info I've saved to mail out on starting with PGF2a:
I'll tell you how I started, which is definately what I recommend. Definately start LOW. Inject maybe 20 iu's into each bicep, tricep, delt, or whatever you want to inject. So you take only 40 iu's total your first day. That's not even half of one cc.
Pay attention to how you feel, and for the love of God remember to ASPIRATE! If it doesn't hit you to hard... I'd suggest maybe 25 iu's in each muscle the next day, but do it twice in the day. For a total of 1 cc. See how you feel then. If all is well... the next day, try a bit higher dosage... 35 iu's per muscle, twice in a day. And GRADUALLY up the dosage from day to day. I didn't get into higher dosages for a few weeks...
Just don't push it too hard up front. It'll REALLY kick your ass in if
you do. Take it light to begin with. I do suggest 20 iu's into, for example, each delt the first day. And that's it.
The muscle that REALLY hurts to inject in as far as upper body... the biceps. If you wanna see what PGF2a pain is all about... shoot there. Delts are relatively easy... and triceps hurt a bit. But Biceps KILL. Just don't overdo it at the beginning, and you'll be fine.
Here's some info I've saved to mail out on starting with PGF2a:
I'll tell you how I started, which is definately what I recommend. Definately start LOW. Inject maybe 20 iu's into each bicep, tricep, delt, or whatever you want to inject. So you take only 40 iu's total your first day. That's not even half of one cc.
Pay attention to how you feel, and for the love of God remember to ASPIRATE! If it doesn't hit you to hard... I'd suggest maybe 25 iu's in each muscle the next day, but do it twice in the day. For a total of 1 cc. See how you feel then. If all is well... the next day, try a bit higher dosage... 35 iu's per muscle, twice in a day. And GRADUALLY up the dosage from day to day. I didn't get into higher dosages for a few weeks...
Just don't push it too hard up front. It'll REALLY kick your ass in if
you do. Take it light to begin with. I do suggest 20 iu's into, for example, each delt the first day. And that's it.
The muscle that REALLY hurts to inject in as far as upper body... the biceps. If you wanna see what PGF2a pain is all about... shoot there. Delts are relatively easy... and triceps hurt a bit. But Biceps KILL. Just don't overdo it at the beginning, and you'll be fine.
Big Brother Val
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Come now, be fair.
The only reason I bash it is the gyno. I'd actually like to see what it would do for me, since I grow so well off of anabolics.Next Fina run will be 100 mgs/day. I'd be interested to know how the Fina worked for someone with your experience. For me it does wonders.
Big Brother Val
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Again... there are a lot of factors involved. You may grow well, you may not. I can't say how much weight I gained... but I did post some of the muscle gains above.
