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krishna

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I've noticed a lot of people say to take clomid and nolva after a cycle, and a lot of people take arimedex during their cycle. What is the reasoning for this? And what is the difference between the medications?
 
Clomid to help bring back natty test levels to normal.
A-dex is an anti-E.

Like uglyass said: there's tons of info on this everywhere!
 
krishna said:
I've noticed a lot of people say to take clomid and nolva after a cycle, and a lot of people take arimedex during their cycle. What is the reasoning for this? And what is the difference between the medications?


Armidex(anti E) will keep your water retention down during the cycle.
Nolvadex is an anti E that basically blocks all your estrogen receptors.
Clomid like stated above is a fertility drug that brings back natural testosterone levels.
 
UglyASS said:
Use the search engine or google and dont be so lazy.

UglyASS :p

why even take the time to post this ??? many's bro's are willing to assist, let's keep things nice around here, we already have more a holes than we need.
 
UglyASS said:
Use the search engine or google and dont be so lazy.

UglyASS :p

I have read about it. I just don't know how to use it yet that's all. If I go read some product info on it, it isn't going to tell me how and when to use it during and after my STEROID CYCLE! Thanks to those who help out.
 
If nolva and arimedex are both anti e's, how come it is more common to take nolva after and a-dex during?
 
krishna said:
If nolva and arimedex are both anti e's, how come it is more common to take nolva after and a-dex during?

Armidex from what I've read is better at keeping you from holding water. I don't think it shuts down your estrogen receptors. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. Armidex is much more expensive though.
 
krishna said:
If nolva and arimedex are both anti e's, how come it is more common to take nolva after and a-dex during?

Nolvadex is usually all you need. Arimidex is much stronger for those with gyno etc.... Nolvadex selectively blocks estrogen, where arimidex completely stops it, they are very different and you should read the profiles on each several times until you see the diff. Proviron is another you should read, good stuff.
 
A-dex is a much stronger anti-E than nolva.
IMO A-dex isn't really that expensive, it doesn't take much of this stuff to get the job done!
 
Ya I've read that A-dex stops the estrogen conversion, and Nolva blocks the receptors. Just wondering what different effects this had on the body. Looks like I have done some research uglyass.
 
indy69camaro said:
Nolvadex is usually all you need. Arimidex is much stronger for those with gyno etc.... Nolvadex selectively blocks estrogen, where arimidex completely stops it, they are very different and you should read the profiles on each several times until you see the diff. Proviron is another you should read, good stuff.
couldn't agree more all you need is nolva, it even gets the test going at end, no matter what some people say, there is a sticky you should read that outlines them all. nolva works awesome for me and all of my friends. good luck
 
bruce410 said:
couldn't agree more all you need is nolva, it even gets the test going at end, no matter what some people say, there is a sticky you should read that outlines them all. nolva works awesome for me and all of my friends. good luck

I agree, though I think some cycles, depending on the drugs used and the amounts, that A-dex has its place.
 
krishna said:
I've noticed a lot of people say to take clomid and nolva after a cycle, and a lot of people take arimedex during their cycle. What is the reasoning for this? And what is the difference between the medications?

Arimidex is used during a cycle to combat the conversion of excess testosterone into estrogen. This benefits a steroids user by keeping the estrogen levels in the body at an acceptable level. With out this aromatase inhibitor, the excess estrogen can cause the unwanted sides that are typically associated with estrogen, gyno, bloating etc. Remember it is important to always have some estrogen in your system.

Nolva is used after the cycle or PCT to allow your body to return to its natural hormonal level, both testosterone and estrogen in the proper balance. It does this in two ways 1) It deactivates rebounding estrogen that will occur when you cease your steroid cycle and 2) increase the responsiveness of LH (luteinizing hormone) to GnRH (gonadtropin releasing hormone); in laymen’s terms it stimulates the development of the interstitial cells of the testes that secrete testosterone.

Final notes: Never use an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex at the end of your cycle. This will keep you natural estrogen suppressed causing among other things your lipid profile to get trashed and prevents your body from returning to its natural hormonal levels. Arimidex will not help you if your using such compounds as Tren or Deca.

CLOMID is dead. Nolva is much more effective both as an anti-estrogen and a post-cycle therapy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
ericahls said:
Arimidex is used during a cycle to combat the conversion of excess testosterone into estrogen. This benefits a steroids user by keeping the estrogen levels in the body at an acceptable level. With out this aromatase inhibitor, the excess estrogen can cause the unwanted sides that are typically associated with estrogen, gyno, bloating etc. Remember it is important to always have some estrogen in your system.

Nolva is used after the cycle or PCT to allow your body to return to its natural hormonal level, both testosterone and estrogen in the proper balance. It does this in two ways 1) It deactivates rebounding estrogen that will occur when you cease your steroid cycle and 2) increase the responsiveness of LH (luteinizing hormone) to GnRH (gonadtropin releasing hormone); in laymen’s terms it stimulates the development of the interstitial cells of the testes that secrete testosterone.

Final notes: Never use an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex at the end of your cycle. This will keep you natural estrogen suppressed causing among other things your lipid profile to get trashed and prevents your body from returning to its natural hormonal levels. Arimidex will not help you if your using such compounds as Tren or Deca.

CLOMID is dead. Nolva is much more effective both as an anti-estrogen and a post-cycle therapy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly what I was looking for...thanks bro. So should I not even bother with clomid? I was I should take HCGm clomid, and nolva post cycle.
 
krishna said:
Exactly what I was looking for...thanks bro. So should I not even bother with clomid? I was I should take HCGm clomid, and nolva post cycle.
I believe nothing brings back natural test levels like clomid imo.
 
krishna said:
Exactly what I was looking for...thanks bro. So should I not even bother with clomid? I was I should take HCGm clomid, and nolva post cycle.

Take HCG DURING your cycle not at the end. 250iu/ 2/week throughout cycle.

NO clomid does NOT bring back natural test levels better. This is a medical fact. Any vet in the know on this board will tell you that.


Did I mention the sides of Clomid? Can mess with your eye sight, turns you into an emotional little girl, acne, shall I go on?
 
ericahls said:
Take HCG DURING your cycle not at the end. 250iu/ 2/week throughout cycle.

NO clomid does NOT bring back natural test levels better. This is a medical fact. Any vet in the know on this board will tell you that.


Did I mention the sides of Clomid? Can mess with your eye sight, turns you into an emotional little girl, acne, shall I go on?

My cycle is almost over. I was advised to do it after my cycle. What do you recommend now?
 
indy69camaro said:
why even take the time to post this ??? many's bro's are willing to assist, let's keep things nice around here, we already have more a holes than we need.

To bring to his attention that he should be researching the basics before coming onto the board posting questions that he couldnt be arsed to read up on himself.

If you want guys posting on the board who dont know shit thats fair enough, I prefered it the old way when people researched and then discussed it.

It may have stopped him ending up in this position...

My cycle is almost over. I was advised to do it after my cycle. What do you recommend now?

UglyASS
 
krishna said:
My cycle is almost over. I was advised to do it after my cycle. What do you recommend now?


Start immediately 250iu/day until your boys are full. Stop at end of cycle.
 
Hey ugly - I think that sometimes tolerance brings not only answers from guys like you who know, but the string leads into more in-depth analysis of the subject matter than the basic question requested. Isn't this all OK? Isn't that why we are here?
 
ericahls said:
Start immediately 250iu/day until your boys are full. Stop at end of cycle.

Then after my cycle, just take nolva? Can I go on the HCG past my cycle if my boys aren't quite full?
 
krishna said:
Then after my cycle, just take nolva? Can I go on the HCG past my cycle if my boys aren't quite full?


After your cycle if you continue to take HCG then it's like not stopping your cycle. HCG affects your body’s ability to return to a natural state in the same way as steroids do. Just stop HCG when your cycle is done or extend your cycle a bit to try to give yourself more time to bring the boys back. At the end of your cycle start Nolva and drop the HCG.
 
HOG said:
Hey ugly - I think that sometimes tolerance brings not only answers from guys like you who know, but the string leads into more in-depth analysis of the subject matter than the basic question requested. Isn't this all OK? Isn't that why we are here?

You're right. I am running high dose Fina at the moment and I'm a bit short in the temper department right now so if my post came off as me being an ass I apologise.

Krishna, if you read up on it I think you'll find out there are plenty of sites that DO tell you how to use it, so don't be a smart ass when you can't be arsed researching the basics in the first place. There's only room for one ass on this board and its an UglyASS! lol :beer:

You got some good advice from ericahls, only part I disagree with is that Clomid is dead. You cant beat a good cry over Rambo III! lol

UglyASS :p
 
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