PCT with no gains?

[trinidad]

Would you still choose to run PCT if you gained nothing from your cycle? Buddy was running a cycle of prop/NPP ed along w 20 mgs. dbol and got nothing but lower back pumps from it. Should he still post up?

 

[MichaelMacGyver]

Yes. There are reasons to do pct other than just keeping gains.

How come no gains?

you got one of the top 10 avitars bro..

 

[tommboy]

yes even though he gained nothing from it that doesnt mean he wont have horrible testostorone levels when he comes off. Why didnt he gain ???

Would you still choose to run PCT if you gained nothing from your cycle? Buddy was running a cycle of prop/NPP ed along w 20 mgs. dbol and got nothing but lower back pumps from it. Should he still post up?

 

[trinidad]

Don't know why he didn't gain.....his 1st cycle was 500 mgs. a wk. of sust and he got nothing from it, 2nd cycle was test/eq and again nothing. Then he tried test/deca and gained 15 lbs. so I figured prop/NPP along with 4 wks. dbol would work good for him and he's actually dropped a couple of lbs. and no strength increase. He's ran pct with the other cycles. He has lifted naturally for a good 15 yrs. and has a good build, he eats good works out hard and gets rest.

 

[swordfish151]

was the gear legit? thats odd...

 

[trinidad]

was the gear legit? thats odd...

I initially had some debate about the sust but the rest is definetely legit gear. I guess he doesn't respond too well to test.

 

[black sheep]

Every male responds to test. If he did not respond to test he would be a midget, and have a girlie voice, with no hair on his nuts..... If he even had nuts...

I say the gear was bad.

 

[swordfish151]

im thinking the same thing...he didnt go up at all??? i mean throughout his whole cycle he stayed the same, no wieght fluctuation whatsoever?

 

[chaos17]

He needs to get a new supplier... He should have had at the very least some kind of gains in the lifting department. He was sold oil

 

[trinidad]

Every male responds to test. If he did not respond to test he would be a midget, and have a girlie voice, with no hair on his nuts..... If he even had nuts...

I say the gear was bad.

You know what I'm saying.....thing is people have always thought he was a juicer because of his natural build. All gear came from reputable sources.

 

[shamrock11]

Yeah that is very weird. No strength gain, weight gains no body fat changes. If he totally got nothing he totally got ripped off. There is no way he took those and got nothing. They were fake.

 

[nipples]

maybe that reputable source ripped the hell off of him just cause he got ripped the f off too, it could happen.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

maybe that reputable source ripped the hell off of him just cause he got ripped the f off too, it could happen.

It happens often. Make sure the source knows about it.

 

[Catch Wrestler]

If the gear was fake,then how do you explain the lower back pumps??That's one way I guage whether my gear is legit or not,'cos evertime I get good gains(which means the gear is legit,obviously),then I always get low back pumps,and bad shin pumps too.

 

[blut wump]

Are you sure he remembered to work out while on cycle?

The pct is more about getting his system up and running normally again than keeping gained bulk so the gains (or lack thereof) on the cycle shouldn't have any bearing on whether to run pct.

 

[trinidad]

Are you sure he remembered to work out while on cycle?

The pct is more about getting his system up and running normally again than keeping gained bulk so the gains (or lack thereof) on the cycle shouldn't have any bearing on whether to run pct.

Positve, the man works out like an animal. He always has. He is very dedicated to the gym.

 

[swordfish151]

i still believe the gear wasn't legit...

 

[DiamondCutCows]

i still believe the gear wasn't legit...

If this bro knows what his diet/training were than I will have to agree.

Sux, but happens daily

 

[swordfish151]

If this bro knows what his diet/training were than I will have to agree.

Sux, but happens daily

ouch! but thanks for the reflections but im learning...

 

[blut wump]

i still believe the gear wasn't legit...

Not really any other explanation. If that's true, though, then no point doing pct. Was he shut down or experiencing testicular shrinkage? It's his call.

 

[BOOEY]

Something's wrong with his training/diet. Let's say hypothetically his gear was fake, even so he should have gained SOMETHING if he was training hard and eating right - either strength or weight or both. We sometimes forget, it's possible to gain when natty, lol.

 

[BOOEY]

Oh to answer the question, maybe he should get blood work to see where his test levels are and then determine whether to run pct.