PCT Question - Thoughts?, esp. Jenetic

[showtime2004]

When I went into my doctor to pick my HCG for my pct, I presented him with Jenetic's post cycle plan. He sayed he disagreed with the 1000iu's m/w/f for 3 weeks. He sayed that your receptors get burned out on HCG very fast, so the best way to do it was to take a shot of 5000ius on day 1, wait 4 days, take 2500ius, wait 4 more days take 1000ius, wait 4 days then 1000ius.

The rest of the pct criteria my doc agreed with, i.e. 20mg nolva for 3 weeks and 100mg clomid for week 1, then 50mg for 2 weeks.

My question, for Jenetic and all you post cycle mavins, is what do you think about this theory. I understand that everyone has a different idea of what's best, but do you think that one way is superior to the other and why?

 

[Guvna]

interesting theory. I would like to hear more.

 

[shawnerk]

I would listen to the guru- and we knowww who that is...

 

[bw1]

When I went into my doctor to pick my HCG for my pct, I presented him with Jenetic's post cycle plan. He sayed he disagreed with the 1000iu's m/w/f for 3 weeks. He sayed that your receptors get burned out on HCG very fast, so the best way to do it was to take a shot of 5000ius on day 1, wait 4 days, take 2500ius, wait 4 more days take 1000ius, wait 4 days then 1000ius.

The rest of the pct criteria my doc agreed with, i.e. 20mg nolva for 3 weeks and 100mg clomid for week 1, then 50mg for 2 weeks.

My question, for Jenetic and all you post cycle mavins, is what do you think about this theory. I understand that everyone has a different idea of what's best, but do you think that one way is superior to the other and why?

Your doc wants you to run a total of 9500iu's in 13 days. Jenetic's plan has you run 9000 iu's in 21 days. Is your doctor saying duration, not dosage burns your receptors out faster?

 

[showtime2004]

I think that is the gist of what he is saying, i.e. hit your receptors with a big dose up front. Scientifically, I'm a retard so I don't really know what the methodology behind his reasoning is. Any ideas?

 

[showtime2004]

^

 

[Guvna]

tell j that this post is here with a pm. He usually doesnt come here anymore.

 

[showtime2004]

pm sent

 

[swordfish151]

this is interesting..i would like to know more!

 

[Gastroc O'Jenkins]

tell j that this post is here with a pm. He usually doesnt come here anymore.

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He still reads here he's just been really busy.

Back on topic.. lots of docs and guru's disagree with hcg dosages.

Your doc's suggestion and j's suggestion are both hcg post cycle, and swale's pct is hcg during the duration of the cycle. Everyone is different and everyone's got their own theories as to which is best.

The best advice I can give you is to try one (I'd recommend jenetics as bloodwork showed it worked for me very well) and get your hpta bloodwork done to verify that it was successful. Once you know that it is, stick with it.

 

[sigmund]

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He still reads here he's just been really busy.

Back on topic.. lots of docs and guru's disagree with hcg dosages.

Your doc's suggestion and j's suggestion are both hcg post cycle, and swale's pct is hcg during the duration of the cycle. Everyone is different and everyone's got their own theories as to which is best.

The best advice I can give you is to try one (I'd recommend jenetics as bloodwork showed it worked for me very well) and get your hpta bloodwork done to verify that it was successful. Once you know that it is, stick with it.

Yep, what works for one person doesn't always work for another. Blood work gives definitive answers as to what protocol works best for an individual.

Don't know why the Doc (from original post) said that receptors get burned out - wrong terminology in my opinion. You can saturate receptors so that the higher dose is redundant but burnt out makes it sound like they are damaged in some way!

I've seen some "replacement" recommend daily doses at 300-500 iu's, which is apparently similar to the bodies natural production however it's worth bearing in mind that PCT isn't about providing a daily natural dose but kick-starting your testes back into action.

For me personally I've found larger doses - 2500 iu's 4 days apart works well as PCT. I also use during cycle at approx. 750 iu's weekly (always in conjunction with Adex / Nolva).

 

[gymratforlife]

Isnt it always better to run your HCG through cycle doing 500mg split in two doses of 250 each on the weekend?