Pct pains

[Chameleonchris]

Hey so would any of the following cause all over muscle pain? I'm talking severe aching, esp in between shoulders, lower back and particularly glutes and hamstrings.

It's the kind of ache you get in the early stages of flu, where you feel weak etc.

20mg nolvadex
50mg clomid
25mg proviron

If any of the above do cause this, are you aware of anything to relieve the symptoms?

Cheers guys

 

[dvoted]

I dont think PCT in itself would cause it... I took the same PCT and nothing. Maybe you have muscle pain due to the decrease in recovery time

 

[bonacris]

Your pct wouldn't cause that.. you are probably coming down with something or you are just worn out

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[olddirtybastard]

I seem to get that same feel on liquid cia. Back glutes hams all ache for days. Are any of your ancillaries research?

 

[Zyglamail]

muscle aches is a well documented possible side effect of Nolvadex.

Doesnt anyone do any damn research before popping pills anymore?

 

[Chameleonchris]

muscle aches is a well documented possible side effect of Nolvadex.

Doesnt anyone do any damn research before popping pills anymore?

Hi, not sure if you were trying to have a dig at me there, but I am not new to steroids, esp the cycles I know and have been doing for a very long time!! I ask because this is the standard pct I've used for all those years and while yes Nolva does cause some mild muscle aches, this is like nothing before esp at only 20mg!!! As Bonachris said, perhaps I am coming down with something too, which has highlighted the issue. Either way asking for advice don't always mean naivety

 

[Chameleonchris]

Your pct wouldn't cause that.. you are probably coming down with something or you are just worn out

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Yes I am sure your right, p.s, sorry I spelt your name wrong in the previous post.

 

[bonacris]

Yes I am sure your right, p.s, sorry I spelt your name wrong in the previous post.

Haha no worries man I've been called worse.

I personally don't like nolva at all but these aches are the 1st symptom I get when I'm getting the flu.. I hope it passes and your good because flu in PCT would suck

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[broscience]

why would you take proviron during pct tho? Proviron is oral masteron and its a AAS...i dont know why anyone would take it during a pct regiment when pct is supposed to designed for Post cycle.

 

[Chameleonchris]

why would you take proviron during pct tho? Proviron is oral masteron and its a AAS...i dont know why anyone would take it during a pct regiment when pct is supposed to designed for Post cycle.

That's a fair and valid point, but for me, I find that taking it for the first 10-14 days of pct yields the best recovery. I've tried tapering it towards the end of cycles too but for me at least, it makes recovery take longer.

It's just my way of doing it

 

[broscience]

explain to me how taking it 2 weeks prior to your pct starting and taking it toward the end of your cycle effects you differently?
that doesn't make any sense to me.

proviron is a AAS and hands down should not be used during pct and if you think otherwise because "its just my way of doing it" then your mentality is wrong and your just fuking up your body and your too stubborn to know it.

prove to me through bloodwork that your body is fully recovered by taking proviron during pct and ill shut my damn mouth.

 

[Zyglamail]

Well, if this is the standard PCT you have used for years then perhaps you should have stated that and that the pain you feel now is not like any PCT muscle aches you have had in the past.

Either way asking for advice don't always mean naivety

You are correct, but not freely providing detailed information does and makes everyone looking to help you play 20 questions/detective.

 

[Chameleonchris]

explain to me how taking it 2 weeks prior to your pct starting and taking it toward the end of your cycle effects you differently?
that doesn't make any sense to me.

proviron is a AAS and hands down should not be used during pct and if you think otherwise because "its just my way of doing it" then your mentality is wrong and your just fuking up your body and your too stubborn to know it.

prove to me through bloodwork that your body is fully recovered by taking proviron during pct and ill shut my damn mouth.

Because through all known research on proviron, you need dosing of 200mg plus to have suppression etc. , anyone who says otherwise is just guessing. At doses of 20-25mg it's a good option to aid correct pct. my mentality is not wrong, and my way of doing things is the result of 7 years of learning, doing and trying. The last thing I am is stubborn, and I wouldn't be here if I thought I knew it all.
Show me proof that it has a negative effect on pct and I'll stop.

As for the 2 week comment you spoke about, I always finish my cycles with anavar and it's just my personal opinion that adding proviron when on just adds extra strain on the liver, also anavar does suppress me a little so in my experience taking proviron post cycle helps my recovery more than taking in the last 2 weeks.

Again I'm sure you will mock, but every body reacts different, I've listened to mine over the past 7 years and it works for me and my medical records always back that up.

Anyway this is deviating far from my initial post!!

 

[Chameleonchris]

Well, if this is the standard PCT you have used for years then perhaps you should have stated that and that the pain you feel now is not like any PCT muscle aches you have had in the past.




You are correct, but not freely providing detailed information does and makes everyone looking to help you play 20 questions/detective.

Absolutely! I apologise for that, the pain the last 2 days I would class as severe esp at night, and not in line with anything I've felt before, either on cycle or on pct

 

[25homes]

Proviron can work similar to unleashed so in theory could use during pct at low dose this was very common 5 yrs ago..let's free test numbers increase dramatically