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Skippydabest

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I am going on a 15 week cycle. starting with deca and going 10 weeks. THen starting the winni at the fifth week of the deca cycle going 10 weeks. With a toltal of 15 weeks for my cycle. so my question is what supplement do you think would work best, clomid, novadex, hcg, or do you think 6oxo would be good enough. WHen should i take the suggested supplement and how long and how much.
 
Skippydabest said:
I am going on a 15 week cycle. starting with deca and going 10 weeks. THen starting the winni at the fifth week of the deca cycle going 10 weeks. With a toltal of 15 weeks for my cycle. so my question is what supplement do you think would work best, clomid, novadex, hcg, or do you think 6oxo would be good enough. WHen should i take the suggested supplement and how long and how much.



Ok mang .. I've been where u are so ill tell u whats up... 6-oxo wont do anything for you.... If ur using deca Ur gonna need HCG forsure.. Nolvadex on hand incase u get gyno.. And for 4-6 weeks after for PCT.. Ur gonna want an anit-e (armidex,proviron).. something to stop the aromitization and keep ur libido up so u dont get all bloated... which deca will do... AND if u want ur dick to work ur gonna have to throw some test in with the Deca .. cause it'll make ur dick go limp....

deca is great
Good luck....
 
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winny does not aromatise and nor does deca cause estrogen induced gyno so nolva during your cycle will do squat. If you get progesteron induced gyno during you cycle you will need some bromo or dositnex. Yes, you may wan to run some proviron to keep your lil guy working but it may not negetively affect your libido. For PCT 10 days after you last shot of deca ( I am confused cause you say your doing a 10 weeker, weeks 1-10 deca and 5-10 adding winny). start with 40mgPD of nolva and 100mg of clomid for 7 days. the next 21 days run 20mg nolva and 50mg clomid. I don't run HCG so I will not commet on this.
 
bilter said:
winny does not aromatise and nor does deca cause estrogen induced gyno so nolva during your cycle will do squat. If you get progesteron induced gyno during you cycle you will need some bromo or dositnex. Yes, you may wan to run some proviron to keep your lil guy working but it may not negetively affect your libido. For PCT 10 days after you last shot of deca ( I am confused cause you say your doing a 10 weeker, weeks 1-10 deca and 5-10 adding winny). start with 40mgPD of nolva and 100mg of clomid for 7 days. the next 21 days run 20mg nolva and 50mg clomid. I don't run HCG so I will not commet on this.


Hmm I didnt know that about deca... thought an anti-e would keep down the bloat... but Will the proviron good enough to run for deca dick... .? Id run some test with it...
 
in order for progesterone to cause gyno is still has to have estrogen. I am not sure of the ratio but they work together. you wont get gyno by progesterone alone.
 
True that. some additional info...............

Nandrolone is proven to be a progestin. This fact is of clear importance in bodybuilding, because while moderate Deca-only use actually lowers estrogen levels as a consequence of reducing natural testosterone levels and thus allowing the aromatase enzyme less substrate to work with, Deca nonetheless can cause gyno in some individuals. Furthermore, just as progesterone will to a point increase sex drive in women, and then often decrease it as levels get too high, high levels of progestogenic steroids can kill sex drive in male bodybuilders, though there is a great deal of individual variability as to what is too much.

Incidentally, this progestogenic activity also inhibits LH production, and contrary to common belief, even small amounts of Deca are quite inhibitory, approximately as much so as the same amount of testosterone.

To some extent, nandrolone aromatizes to estrogen, and it does not appear that this can be entirely blocked by use of aromatase inhibitors – indeed, aromatase may not be involved at all in this process (there is no evidence in humans that such occurs) with the enzyme CYP 2C11 being in my opinion the more likely candidate for this activity. In any case, Cytadren, an aromatase inhibitor, has not been found effective in avoiding aromatization of nandrolone.
 
15 weeks of Deca doesn't sound great at all. I would revamp the whole cycle bieng that i didn't notice what doses of test you plan on using if any at all.
 
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