PCT for Prop & Tren

[Squill]

I suppose this is a question, and a Hello in one thread as im new here!

Im starting a cycle in little over a month, now im wondering about the PCT as im using tren, and understand it shuts you down HARD

I will be using

100mg Prop EoD Weeks 1-8
75mg Tren A EoD Weeks 1-7
50mg Prov ED Weeks 1 -8

Now I was thinking of the standard 60/40/20 Nolva PCT for 21 days, but cant help but think I might need a little something more?

Any ideas from those that have used?

 

[blut wump]

Don't use Nolv on a tren P-CT. It upregulates the progesterone receptor so it's a bad choice with any progestin. I'd always recommend H.C.G and clomid after a run of tren.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

i can off test and deca is a nanadolone derivative so is tren so there alike, im using clomid 50mgs ed for pct and its working very well , add some dermacrine sustain and unleashed or even some hcg and your golden


good luck

peace

 

[Squill]

Don't use Nolv on a tren P-CT. It upregulates the progesterone receptor so it's a bad choice with any progestin

Never knew that, looks lke I have some spare Nolva!!!!

Can you use just Clomid, or would you deffo use both?

 

[Mavafanculo]

Clomid ALSO upregulates progesterone receptors.

as to the original question, I may be wrong on this but my understanding was that since you're not starting PCT until after the nandrolones are basically out of your system, it shouldnt be an issue - any one know different?

I also came across an interesting factoid recently that I didnt know - some studies suggest that aromasin (an aromatase inhibitor) downregulates progesterone receptors (as does ru486 but no one is going to start doing 486 lol).

 

[jumpmaster82]

the clomid or nova will not help with the nandralones cuz of the progesterone. But I think mava is right about them already being gone if you run the prop acouple weeks longer.

 

[Squill]

So maybe run tren Weeks 1-6 or 1-7 and prop weeks 1-8?

 

[wzkid]

2 weeks longer with the prop, then derma and nolva @ 40/40/20/20

Worked well for my last pct coming off prop/tren

 

[jumpmaster82]

So maybe run tren Weeks 1-6 or 1-7 and prop weeks 1-8?

exactly

 

[blut wump]

Clomid ALSO upregulates progesterone receptors.

as to the original question, I may be wrong on this but my understanding was that since you're not starting PCT until after the nandrolones are basically out of your system, it shouldnt be an issue - any one know different?

I also came across an interesting factoid recently that I didnt know - some studies suggest that aromasin (an aromatase inhibitor) downregulates progesterone receptors (as does ru486 but no one is going to start doing 486 lol).

Interesting and the first I've heard of this. I've not seen any anecdotal evidence of clomid being an issue with nandrolones. Guys picking up gyno when running nolv, though, are not uncommon.

I'd consider one at risk for at least five weeks after discontinuing the tren. Note that tren ace, or at least its metabolites, is/are reputed to be detectable for upto five months after a cycle.

There's some evidence that winny can also act as an anti-progestin, although I've also read that in some individuals it can have the opposite effect.

 

[access]

Run the Prop ideally two weeks after the completion of Tren and you should have no problems at all using Nolva two weeks after that. 20mgs Nolva a day is fine too, no need to go higher than this. It is also a good idea to run some low dose winny (25mgs/day) with the tren to avoid the build up of Progesterone. You could also run low dose T3 as will help with Prolactin and increases protein synthesis so a nice double up there.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

exactly

+1

I would use sustain alpha, Unleashed and Post Cycle for P.CT. Use H.CG on cycle starting week 3. 500iu's a week.

 

[Squill]

Cheers guys