PCT for 12 week tren/test cycle

[lostinfitness]

500 mg a week super test

50mg eod tren acetate

 

[boxerjake]

Mine is simply a kickstart with HCG then clomid with AIFM throughout ...

Dostinex on hand incase tren sides creep during cycle .

 

[nydj66]

With tren ace (especially for that long) prolactin can really hinder recovery. It takes about 3 weeks for the testes to recover (after your LH levels have returned to normal) so I ran 500IU HCG/day for 20 days.

I took 20mg/day of nolvadex along with the HCG to prevent gyno and leydig cell desensitization. Then followed up the HCG/nolva with 100mg/day of clomid for 3 weeks to recover my hypathalamus and pituitary.

 

[drrman]

get you some nolvadex and clomid to run post cycle too, also you can run aromasin post cycle to to help with estrogen rebound

 

[chaquito]

I never do PCT after my cycles BUT if i were to do so i would run nolvadex at 20mg for a couple of month or so. I strongly believe in tapper off with a mild anabolic as anavar or winstrol or primo tabs , works for me every time.

 

[aceofspades]

I did about the same cycle not that long ago. My PCT was:

wk1: Clomid 150mg/d (300mg Day 1), Nolva 60mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 75mg/d, Activate
wk2: Clomid 100mg/d, Nolva 40mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 50mg/d, Activate
wk3: Nolva 20mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 25mg/d, Activate
wk4: Nolva 20mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d, Activate
wk5: Nolva 10mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d

It worked great and I also tossed in a little IGF.

 

[njmuscleguy]

boxerjake: and are your PCT's generally successful?

nydj66: how about your PCT, did it work for you? full recovery?

 

[lostinfitness]

With tren ace (especially for that long) prolactin can really hinder recovery. It takes about 3 weeks for the testes to recover (after your LH levels have returned to normal) so I ran 500IU HCG/day for 20 days.

I took 20mg/day of nolvadex along with the HCG to prevent gyno and leydig cell desensitization. Then followed up the HCG/nolva with 100mg/day of clomid for 3 weeks to recover my hypathalamus and pituitary.

I am only taking the tren for the last 6 weeks of my test cycle. sorry i should have clarified.

 

[lostinfitness]

I did about the same cycle not that long ago. My PCT was:

wk1: Clomid 150mg/d (300mg Day 1), Nolva 60mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 75mg/d, Activate
wk2: Clomid 100mg/d, Nolva 40mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 50mg/d, Activate
wk3: Nolva 20mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 25mg/d, Activate
wk4: Nolva 20mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d, Activate
wk5: Nolva 10mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d

It worked great and I also tossed in a little IGF.

This is my first cycle, that seems like a lot of pct for someone without any cycles in their history.

 

[solidspine]

HCG, 1500 every 5 days

4 weeks,

Over

 

[drrman]

This is my first cycle, that seems like a lot of pct for someone without any cycles in their history.

cycle history has nothing much to do with PCT......that is not a bad plan he laid out there, i would run some aromasin with it too though.

 

[boxerjake]

boxerjake: and are your PCT's generally successful?

nydj66: how about your PCT, did it work for you? full recovery?

You'd think at my age recovery would be harder ( 42 ) but i keep the cycles to 6 or 8 weeks max and never had a big crash ...

I would imagine guys running 12 14 18 20 weeks or longer may have atrophy issues a little harder to deal with then i do .

PCT seems a work in progress , something that takes alot of trial and error to figure out . What works for one guys is'nt always the answer for everyone , thats why i find it important to keep a log book of my bio-feedback as a reference to what worked and what did'nt work .

 

[njmuscleguy]

You'd think at my age recovery would be harder ( 42 ) but i keep the cycles to 6 or 8 weeks max and never had a big crash ...

I would imagine guys running 12 14 18 20 weeks or longer may have atrophy issues a little harder to deal with then i do .

PCT seems a work in progress , something that takes alot of trial and error to figure out . What works for one guys is'nt always the answer for everyone , thats why i find it important to keep a log book of my bio-feedback as a reference to what worked and what did'nt work .

^^ Ain't that the truth!! Good idea about keeping a log book, I do that with my workouts but never thought of doing that with PCT... I'll start now!

Thanks!

 

[njmuscleguy]

Mine is simply a kickstart with HCG then clomid with AIFM throughout ...

Dostinex on hand incase tren sides creep during cycle .

By the way, how much HCG and clomid do you do and how long do you run each?

 

[boxerjake]

^^ Ain't that the truth!! Good idea about keeping a log book, I do that with my workouts but never thought of doing that with PCT... I'll start now!

Thanks!

It sounds a bit dorky and most guys think they remember everything but it's a hell of a good idea anyways , i do the same on my cycle with injections and what i feel and when .

I write down my mood , my energy level , acne concerns if any , emotions / like if i have anxiety or depression , how my work out went that day - like did i have any power or shortnesss of breath or was i amazing in the gym .

Add to that what i look like , is my face bloated , do i look flat , do i look like i'm retaining water , am i vascular etc etc etc

After years of training and repeated cycles you can sit down and find patterns they may help guide you in the future , it's pretty plain to see when it's written down .

On a fun note : I can just about peg to the very day when i can fuck all night long like a wild stallion . Very helpfull to line up a Mrs for that period , same goes for the lost libido .... i know when i'm not going to be at my best and plan accordingly .

IE: Don't take out a hot chick to fuck if you can't get it up

 

[nydj66]

boxerjake: and are your PCT's generally successful?

nydj66: how about your PCT, did it work for you? full recovery?

I always have a very difficult time with recovery. The last week of the PCT I described to you above (the 3rd week of clomid) I couldn't get a hardon even with 100mg of Viagra.

The week after that was better, about 2 weeks after that I felt fully recovered.

I know that's not a great endorsement, but when I tried PCT without HCG I could go 6 weeks after finishing clomid and still not feel recovered. So the HCG made a huge improvement.

 

[njmuscleguy]

It sounds a bit dorky and most guys think they remember everything but it's a hell of a good idea anyways , i do the same on my cycle with injections and what i feel and when .

I write down my mood , my energy level , acne concerns if any , emotions / like if i have anxiety or depression , how my work out went that day - like did i have any power or shortnesss of breath or was i amazing in the gym .

Add to that what i look like , is my face bloated , do i look flat , do i look like i'm retaining water , am i vascular etc etc etc

After years of training and repeated cycles you can sit down and find patterns they may help guide you in the future , it's pretty plain to see when it's written down .

On a fun note : I can just about peg to the very day when i can fuck all night long like a wild stallion . Very helpfull to line up a Mrs for that period , same goes for the lost libido .... i know when i'm not going to be at my best and plan accordingly .

IE: Don't take out a hot chick to fuck if you can't get it up

Some very solid advice - I just started my PCT log! Thanks bro!
k comin' atcha!

 

[njmuscleguy]

I always have a very difficult time with recovery. The last week of the PCT I described to you above (the 3rd week of clomid) I couldn't get a hardon even with 100mg of Viagra.

The week after that was better, about 2 weeks after that I felt fully recovered.

I know that's not a great endorsement, but when I tried PCT without HCG I could go 6 weeks after finishing clomid and still not feel recovered. So the HCG made a huge improvement.

I hear ya...I'm in the same boat...haven't been able to nail a good PCT to date... thought my current one was working nicely, libido and everything for a while....then lost it...plus the clomid sides got pretty bad....after 5 weeks of clomid, I'm running a second round of HCG... stopped the clomid almost a week ago and continuing with AIFM... I'll do this for another week or so and then get blood work after that... hope I do a better job recovering this time around...having low test levels SUCKS!

k comin' atcha!

 

[aceofspades]

This is my first cycle, that seems like a lot of pct for someone without any cycles in their history.

I guess it might seem like a lot of PCT for someone without any cycles but it has worked well for me in the past and helped me keep most of my gains. I really like Activate for my PCT and I might even toss in some Fenugreek.