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pallad 1 test with cyclodextrin

DR. NOE

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Pat, just wondering how effective 1 test would be if taken with your cyclodextrin power and made into a nasal spray. I have 20 grams of power on the way, so can you give me a good ratio of how many grams of cyclodextrin power to mix with how many grams of 1-test. I have some 1 test also coming from Avant labs and currently taken 1 test by VPX sports. My plan is to absorb 1 test thru the nose, skin and oral route. This is the same method that i gain 10 pounds on a few years ago, using your spray, nasal and oral doil power. Also are you still selling the cyclodextrin power, i know your cyclo power absorbs better and breaks down better then the other on the market.
 
You can't just throw an androgen and cyclodextrin in a bowl, stir, and serve.

And, our product is most certainly not intended for oral or intranasal use -- it is a topical.

ParDeus
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par deus

Par, I understand your 1 test is for tropical use only, but vpx sports is oral, and Pat posted this formula a few years ago for intranasal which he said was the most effective delivery method. This is were 20 grams of Kilosports would be utilized.Found the old formula on the web still and its posted below. My plan is still to take 1 test thru all 3 delivery routes unless Arnold sees a problem with it. Pat seeing how your the cyclodextrin expert, is Par correct in stating that its a complicated procedure and do you still think that intranasal is the most effective delivery method still and would 1 test still be effective in the nasal without the cyclodextrin. For those who don't know it, Pat started selling intranasal prohormones mixed with cyclodextrin about a year after writing this post.

to get the full effect of the Raw Cyclo Powders, your best bet is to take them intranasally (in the nose). Intranasal administration has the distinction of being second only to injection with regards to absorption.This increased absorption will result in higher levels of the cyclo molecules- which means more growth for the user. So for those who are serious, this is the method to try. This procedure is really quite simple.
1) Go to pharmacy and pick up a saline nasal spray. There are generic brands available for around $3. There is also a brand name one called "Ocean"

2) Take the screw cap off, and then remove the applicator part and put aside. The
applicator part should snap right out

3) Pour contents of spray bottle into a glass. And take note of the level of liquid. This is
best done in a clear (and clean) measuring cup.

4) After measuring the level, dump the saline solution down the drain.

5) Fill the measuring cup with Distilled Water, matching the level of the saline solution.

6) Measure out cyclo powder using spoon and add to the distilled water in the proportion
of approximately 300mg per milliliter. The generic spray has 44 mL in it, so add
approximately 13.2 grams of cyclo powder. The scoop provided holds more or less 550
mg filled level. Doing the math that is around 25 scoops.

7) Stir thoroughly until it is all dissolved. It is recommended to stir every few scoops. If
there are clumps simply stir until they are gone. You will have a semi-transparent solution
with a little suds on the top.

8) Put this back in the squirt bottle and replace the spray applicator. Use a funnel to avoid
spillage.

9) To use, spray up each nostril. Each spray will give somewhere around 7 mg. of
prohormone. You need not do, nor should you do, more than 2 sprays per nostril at one
time. Don't overuse (like sprays every half hour) or you could get some irritation.

Intranasal is quite a potent and fast acting way to use this stuff. The bioavailability is a lot better than even sublingual, and the prohormone is absorbed into an area with very close proximity to the base of the brain so you will get an accentuated CNS effect. Good for preworkout.

*Recipe is adapted from a Usenet post by Pat Arnold, and has been edited by Joshua Carter in accordance with a conversation with Pat Arnold.
 
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a0169969 said:
Par, I understand your 1 test is for tropical use only, but vpx sports is oral, and Pat posted this formula a few years ago for intranasal which he said was the most effective delivery method. This is were 20 grams of Kilosports would be utilized.Found the old formula on the web still and its posted below. My plan is still to take 1 test thru all 3 delivery routes unless Arnold sees a problem with it. Pat seeing how your the cyclodextrin expert, is Par correct in stating that its a complicated procedure and do you still think that intranasal is the most effective delivery method still and would 1 test still be effective in the nasal without the cyclodextrin. For those who don't know it, Pat started selling intranasal prohormones mixed with cyclodextrin about a year after writing this post.

to get the full effect of the Raw Cyclo Powders, your best bet is to take them intranasally (in the nose). Intranasal administration has the distinction of being second only to injection with regards to absorption.This increased absorption will result in higher levels of the cyclo molecules- which means more growth for the user. So for those who are serious, this is the method to try. This procedure is really quite simple.
1) Go to pharmacy and pick up a saline nasal spray. There are generic brands available for around $3. There is also a brand name one called "Ocean"

2) Take the screw cap off, and then remove the applicator part and put aside. The
applicator part should snap right out

3) Pour contents of spray bottle into a glass. And take note of the level of liquid. This is
best done in a clear (and clean) measuring cup.

4) After measuring the level, dump the saline solution down the drain.

5) Fill the measuring cup with Distilled Water, matching the level of the saline solution.

6) Measure out cyclo powder using spoon and add to the distilled water in the proportion
of approximately 300mg per milliliter. The generic spray has 44 mL in it, so add
approximately 13.2 grams of cyclo powder. The scoop provided holds more or less 550
mg filled level. Doing the math that is around 25 scoops.

7) Stir thoroughly until it is all dissolved. It is recommended to stir every few scoops. If
there are clumps simply stir until they are gone. You will have a semi-transparent solution
with a little suds on the top.

8) Put this back in the squirt bottle and replace the spray applicator. Use a funnel to avoid
spillage.

9) To use, spray up each nostril. Each spray will give somewhere around 7 mg. of
prohormone. You need not do, nor should you do, more than 2 sprays per nostril at one
time. Don't overuse (like sprays every half hour) or you could get some irritation.

Intranasal is quite a potent and fast acting way to use this stuff. The bioavailability is a lot better than even sublingual, and the prohormone is absorbed into an area with very close proximity to the base of the brain so you will get an accentuated CNS effect. Good for preworkout.

*Recipe is adapted from a Usenet post by Pat Arnold, and has been edited by Joshua Carter in accordance with a conversation with Pat Arnold.




I doubt you know how to make a complex from cyclo and 1-test, and even if you did this is not something you want any where near your nasal membranes.

Since you are buying the product from kilo sports, I think its appropriate that they advise you on its use. If you were buying a product from me, then I would be glad to help you out
 
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pa1ad said:

I doubt you know how to make a complex from cyclo and 1-test, and even if you did this is not something you want any where near your nasal membranes.


I was kind of curious about this -- obviously straight 1-test on nasal membranes would be uncomfortable, to say the least, but I wasn't sure what having it encased in the cyclodextrin would do to the situation.
 
I will stick to Sustenon. This is becoming ridiculous. I am convinced you will get more sides from this home brew crap and way less muscle building effects than any real testosterone approved as a steroid.

Testoman
 
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Par Deus said:



I was kind of curious about this -- obviously straight 1-test on nasal membranes would be uncomfortable, to say the least, but I wasn't sure what having it encased in the cyclodextrin would do to the situation.


It only accelerates the pain. Gets the steroid straight into the membranes fast
 
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pa1ad said:


It only accelerates the pain. Gets the steroid straight into the membranes fast


I can't even imagine how much this would hurt. I had a bit of 1-test "dust" fly up into my eyes, and I thought I was going to die.
 
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Par Deus said:



I can't even imagine how much this would hurt. I had a bit of 1-test "dust" fly up into my eyes, and I thought I was going to die.


I have been working with 1-adione in the lab and on full scale production for over a year and a half. You do not have to tell me about the dust. Nor do you have to tell the guy who dries it in the tray ovens
 
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