Overweight first cycle ?

[bigg_poppa]

my buddy just joined the gym wit me and he is looking to run a cycle alone wit me at the same time but the problem is he is over weight hes at like 270 and at 35% bf hes trained for 2 years off and on and is 26 he wants to run test prop for his first cycle but the problem im scared to see what would happen what are some side effects that can happen to someone who ran test being over weight?

well we knew about the high estrogen levels and he was going to take this as his first cycle

weeks 1 -10 test prop 500mgs a week
letro @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED

PCT
3 days after last injection

Day 1 Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Day 2 - 11 Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Day 12 - 21 Nolvadex 20mg

 

[obey]

Well first off why would you consider running any AAS when your bf is that high? Gear doesn’t make you loose weight your diet and cardio will do that. You will look even worse then you do now if you run anything before you drop your bf substantially. Give your self a good year of consistent weight and cardio training and a proper diet you will be surprised with the results you will get. It takes time and dedication to get in shape not gear. so put the gear on hold and put in some work good luck buddy.... or your friend

 

[Ju|ceMaN]

This is the world we live in, instant gratification "I am fat, fuck it I will juice and it will be gone" does not work like that

 

[JohnnyWest]

you'll probably run into alot of blood pressure problems and various other things, besides it is pointless to cycle until you getyour bf% down becuase you won't see any new muscle growth under all thatbody fat. you will be needlessly be putting your body through stress. no more pop, fast food, cripsy creams, and stay on a good diet with cardio and you will see great results.

 

[SwolK]

he will look even fatter and look like bloated crap if he does not drop bf first. 2 yrs on and off also does not sound like he is very serious. His bp will also probably be high.

tell him to train hard with proper diet and cardio for at least a year or two before he even considers a cycle.

show your friend this thread from experianced users telling him NOT TO DO IT

 

[Twoguns]

Wtf? Lol

 

[theprofessor]

one more vote here for NO cycle...

 

[OMEGA]

going to disagree with everyone here.

and say that if a Endomorphs training is perfect and diet is on point with emphasis on lean mass gains and cardio

and has had 2 years of traning plus

a cycle like the one posted above could make the juorney form a fat ass to a healthy human VERY possible


12-16 weeks Test E

 

[GetBig10]

This is the world we live in, instant gratification "I am fat, fuck it I will juice and it will be gone" does not work like that

ahha

 

[scout69]

Tell him shoot some winstrol and take alot of Cel Tech he'll drop to 220 at 2% BF By labor day...LMAO

 

[solidspine]

Re: Overweight first cycle ?
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This is the world we live in, instant gratification "I am fat, fuck it I will juice and it will be gone" does not work like that



Actually when DNP existed it worked pretty good.

 

[daveyboy2345]

all his fat ass needs is alot of exercise, the kind that leaves your shirt soakin' wet and to feel a little hungry day in and day out for the next 6-9 months then tell us how he is doing.After he is under 25% Bf he could use ephedrine and caffeine if he can tolerate it.

A reduced calorie diet with weights 3 times a week and 2-4 hours of cardio spread out over 3-5 days will do it. Cut down on sitting around and doing nothing, watching tv, and get outside and walk around as much as possible daily.

 

[mustang_00]

i can go either way on this question... I've seen first hand friends (huge friends) i'm talking 35%-40% bf mold themselves into happy/healthy/very active 15%-20% bf people. It kinda pisses me off that it's even possible for that to happen but yes it can happen.

 

[silverbackn]

I definitely disagree with the norm on this issue. If a bigger cat will be disciplined with his diet and train his ass off he will make great improvements just like everyone else. Obvioulsy you need to keep them dry and keep the estrogen levels down. Why would you think that a bigger dude putting on muscle is going to hurt them? More muscle mass equals a higher metabolism and indirectly a lower bodyfat. That mindset is the same as some toolshed saying I want to lose the weight and then start lifting. It's fucking ridiculous.

 

[pitbullrocco]

throw some http://www.ag-guys.com/store/produc...&cat=250&xid=7f3539a00ff8e225838241d90fe5495b in there