I always use otc stuff!!!! I like to use HCG, mild AI, and OTC's(needtos stuff has always worked well). As my PCT goes I usually taper back the HCG and AI then run good OTC's for a few months. I really dont get into much AAS anymore because it was so hard for me to recover(tren, deca, adrol). Im just a low-mod dose test and winni guy anymore. I seem to recover quick this way.