Osta + LGD

[letsgosarms]

I am 5 weeks into my LGD cycle, and just pumped it up to 7mg today.

How could you diagnose this:

I may be seeing dimnishing returns as of this week. I believe i am eating above matenience with enough carbs and protein easily. My strength gains have slowed down, and hunger pains come and go. I am troubled. I ran my first LGD cycle about 5 weeks before this one. I have not grown in the mirror for at least a week. It is troubling to say the least.

Should i up my dose of LGD , every week like i have been doing? I just added osta to my stack today @ 2mg. Hoping for some kind of blessing in disguise so to say.

I know it comes straight down to the diet when it comes to gaining but damn..i'm getting pissed.

What else could i add to my cycle at this point? Creatine, a PH? would like some advice ! thanks guys

 

[Cipp21]

You ran two back-to-back LGD cycles? Why? Even then you didn't allow your body a full recovery afterwards, meaning time on cycle+pct... Your body is shut down and it's already too used to the compound. Adding Osta at 2mg won't do anything, thats an incredibly light dose. Don't add a PH, there isn't enough known about the compound to go about adding things to your stack.

I guess my only advice is to add Creatine, I'm running it with mine already, and up your cals.

 

[notjake11]

cipp is dead on. LGD is good stuff but it is suppressive and you do need to give your body time to recover after using it. Just like with AAS it should be time on + pct = time off. And Osta at 2mg is pretty much a waste. The recommended daily dose for Osta is 25mg/day.

 

[letsgosarms]

cipp is dead on. LGD is good stuff but it is suppressive and you do need to give your body time to recover after using it. Just like with AAS it should be time on + pct = time off. And Osta at 2mg is pretty much a waste. The recommended daily dose for Osta is 25mg/day.

Yeah thing is i got bloods done 2 days into this cycle, and i wasn't shutdown at all. Estradiol , free test, and total t all checked out. I am guessing it has something to do with this sort though..Maybe my receptors need some rest. After my 8 weeks is up and 4 weeks of pct, i'll take at least 13 weeks off.

And i meant 2ML of osta, not 2mg, sorry. Started osta yesterday at this dose, since it takes around 2 weeks to kick in, i figure i can bump it up to 5ml, throughout this cycle and through my pct, to keep gains and what not.

I guess i am still learning about anabolics , and it will be my lifestyle eventually. I have probably gained around 6-7 pounds of muscle all around my body. It is difficult for me to grow in certain areas, and although the gains come on slow, it is progression. I guess i can't expect to be some elite bodybuilder in 8 weeks. :O

 

[Cipp21]

Different. Post the bloods if you can get a good picture, there are plenty of people highly interested in seeing them (me included). From the logs and reviews I've read I concluded the shutdown wouldn't be as bad as AAS, but no shutdown is awesome. 2ml of Osta is an unnecessary dose, if you got it from unique that's ~100mg which is 4x the optimal dosage for cycle and PCT. But yes, running any two compounds consecutively is no good due to immunity. 6-7lbs keepable muscle after a cycle are great gains! If the supression turns out to be next to nothing, this is going to be an ultimate bridge. Post them bloods! Nobody has a BB physique after 8 weeks, and if they managed to achieve that feat they're buried 6 feet under.

Btw were you on a cal surplus, maintainence, or deficit on your previous cycle?

 

[dylangemelli]

it makes no difference if your bloods looked good... lgd is to be treated as an aas where time on = time off... you also need to give your body a break from it or you are going to adapt to it and then the problem you are having occurs... you don't keep running them over and over like that man... you need plenty of time away... the body adapts to things...

osta needs to be ran at 25 mg day...

 

[letsgosarms]

Different. Post the bloods if you can get a good picture, there are plenty of people highly interested in seeing them (me included). From the logs and reviews I've read I concluded the shutdown wouldn't be as bad as AAS, but no shutdown is awesome. 2ml of Osta is an unnecessary dose, if you got it from unique that's ~100mg which is 4x the optimal dosage for cycle and PCT. But yes, running any two compounds consecutively is no good due to immunity. 6-7lbs keepable muscle after a cycle are great gains! If the supression turns out to be next to nothing, this is going to be an ultimate bridge. Post them bloods! Nobody has a BB physique after 8 weeks, and if they managed to achieve that feat they're buried 6 feet under.

Btw were you on a cal surplus, maintainence, or deficit on your previous cycle?

Definitley hardly any shutdown. And i was sure of this. I didn't even do a PCT. Natty test booster weeks and weeks later. I will post the bloods.

and i meant at the "2" line on the syringe so i guess 12.5mg for osta.

i have been up and down the past week, although my weight seems to soar through the roof. I am currently 185 no water weight when i wake up..15 pound gain since the start of the cycle. 3-5k a day.

on my last cycle i ate like a pig, easily 3.5-5k a day.

 

[letsgosarms]

it makes no difference if your bloods looked good... lgd is to be treated as an aas where time on = time off... you also need to give your body a break from it or you are going to adapt to it and then the problem you are having occurs... you don't keep running them over and over like that man... you need plenty of time away... the body adapts to things...

osta needs to be ran at 25 mg day...

so what am i looking at here, as a final conclusion for my body.

in the past three months i will have run a total of 11 weeks + 4 weeks PCT(when this cycle ends) including my first cycle and this cycle. Not a total end of all things, am i right? When i go off LGD on my 8th week i should have no problem, right?

Don't think i'll be running anything till at least october. And then i'll look at other options, due to the fact that would still have to run such a high dose compared to test subjects, i suppose

As for osta, 25mg is at the "5" mark correct? thanks