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Original Derma Or Sustain

wzkid

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Which would be better for a first cycle/first PCT?

Cycle is prop/ace/winny 50/37.5/50 ED

I understand that the sustain can be used longer but, will it have the same effects as the original during PCT?
 
wzkid said:
Which would be better for a first cycle/first PCT?

Cycle is prop/ace/winny 50/37.5/50 ED

I understand that the sustain can be used longer but, will it have the same effects as the original during PCT?

Sustian is the way to go for PCT, unless you want to start with the original derma and then switch to the sustain...

BTW, HCG on cycle at 125iu EOD will GREATLY reduce your recovery time.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Sustian is the way to go for PCT, unless you want to start with the original derma and then switch to the sustain...

BTW, HCG on cycle at 125iu EOD will GREATLY reduce your recovery time.

-Pp

What would be the benefit of using the original then switching to the sustain instead of just using the sustain? Is the original stronger and thats why the sustain can be used longer?

Sorry about derma questions like this instead of rereading all of those threads already posted but, they filled up with crap so fast I had trouble finding any relevant info.

BTW, thanks for the HCG advice. Already got it covered, lol
 
wzkid said:
What would be the benefit of using the original then switching to the sustain instead of just using the sustain? Is the original stronger and thats why the sustain can be used longer?

Sorry about derma questions like this instead of rereading all of those threads already posted but, they filled up with crap so fast I had trouble finding any relevant info.

BTW, thanks for the HCG advice. Already got it covered, lol

The original would be able to raise androgens faster due to the DHEA so this would provide some immediate support, but its not as good as the sustain for increased LH and FSH... which is why we say "sustain for PCT."

Sustain may prove to be better all around... even for non-PCT users. Some guys just dont convert the DHEA to test as well as others, and in this case the new sustain would prove to be even more powerful of a test booster.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
The original would be able to raise androgens faster due to the DHEA so this would provide some immediate support, but its not as good as the sustain for increased LH and FSH... which is why we say "sustain for PCT."

Sustain may prove to be better all around... even for non-PCT users. Some guys just dont convert the DHEA to test as well as others, and in this case the new sustain would prove to be even more powerful of a test booster.

-Pp

Cool bro, Thanks for the help with clearing that up! Will order the sustain now.
 
artificialaspirations said:
what allows sustain to be used longer? Is there a shutdown? Whats the longest recommended cycle?

Its the prolonged use of DHEA -- a pro-hormone that can eventually be suppressive. The new derma sustain does not have the DHEA or preg, its only the phyto aromatase inhibitors and natural SERM's... so it can be used as long as you like.

All the ingredients in the sustain seem to have cardiovascular benefits too, as well as anti-cancer properties. Resveratrol is actually being studied as a nutrient that can extend life... something to do with SIRT1 metabolism.

-Pp
 
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