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Never heard that one before, sort of sounds like a bluff, but not really sure? Maybe some other bros will have some insight for you.......
 
They have to write that to free themselves from legal issues. Normally they do not check to see if you actually own cattle. Plus I'm pretty sure they know who the majority of their customers are anyways.
 
I called some of the local co-ops seeing if any had them stocked. None of them did, but one of them in a neighboring city said they had them in the catalouge and would order them for me along with their normal product order for that week. A week later they called and said that it was in and I went down there and picked them up no problem. Got them for about $100 cheaper than I've seen anywhere else online also. If you live around some small cities like I do, you might just call the co-ops like I did. I could tell when I walked in there that those guys had no clue what in the hell those pellets were or what I could possibly want them for, and they didn't seem to care about finding out either.
 
When you order finaplex or componet T-H your name goes on a form that gets sent to the GOV, department of agriculture I believe. Right now it's all in paper format and nobody is looking at them. But I know someday there will be some junior G-Man that will think "Hey if I go through all this paperwork I can bust a bunch of guys and make it to first grade G-Man." "And it won't really be that hard. All I need it to get the one's that went to New York City, Atlanta, San Francisco and Los Angeles, no cows there."
 
Big_Joe said:
When you order finaplex or componet T-H your name goes on a form that gets sent to the GOV, department of agriculture I believe. Right now it's all in paper format and nobody is looking at them. But I know someday there will be some junior G-Man that will think "Hey if I go through all this paperwork I can bust a bunch of guys and make it to first grade G-Man." "And it won't really be that hard. All I need it to get the one's that went to New York City, Atlanta, San Francisco and Los Angeles, no cows there."

I dunno about NYC or San Fran but I know in Atlanta and LA if you drive like 30-40 miles there are cattle areas. Technically I guess people in these cities could own cattle but live down in the city.
 
Big_Joe said:
When you order finaplex or componet T-H your name goes on a form that gets sent to the GOV, department of agriculture I believe. Right now it's all in paper format and nobody is looking at them. But I know someday there will be some junior G-Man that will think "Hey if I go through all this paperwork I can bust a bunch of guys and make it to first grade G-Man." "And it won't really be that hard. All I need it to get the one's that went to New York City, Atlanta, San Francisco and Los Angeles, no cows there."

If that happens a lot of folks here will be fucked.

Not like it would though. Besides, the evidence would be long gone. ;)
 
donsj said:
they say they check to see if you have a real farm, danger here ?

vetamerica was contacting buyers for proof of "cattle ownership," and there were some claims of people being questioned by LE over finaplix buys from VA - however that has not been verified by many.
 
Mr.X said:
vetamerica was contacting buyers for proof of "cattle ownership," and there were some claims of people being questioned by LE over finaplix buys from VA - however that has not been verified by many.


First of all it seems as if the vet stores should be held more liable than the buyers. The vet should be the one entirely at fault b/c they are supposed to verify ownership.
 
Send a Western Union, use a fake name and a friend's address...same as you do when ordering gear.

The place I order mine from actually has DMSO gel on the page right next to the fina and component th. Last time I checked, cows weren't getting their tren doses transdermally. ;)

At this point, I don't think the government is converned about b.b.er's using fina. The U.S.D.A keeps records of purchases and may occasionally track orders b/c they don't want farmers going overboard with the stuff. By-products and traces of hormones can be found in beef, and the government restricts how high the levels can be. Imagine if they started using 2000 mg doses instead of the 200 mg ones they use now...it would be some tasty beef! :qt: I know there was a big problem in Europe in the 80's with farmers giving beef cows clenbuterol.

I personally think that everyone on this board (and every other board) needs to stop talking about fina in open forums like these. It should be treated the same way sources are treated...talk about them in secure e-mails. It's only a matter of time before the govenment figures out what we're doing with the stuff and puts some tougher restrictions on buying it.
 
Off topic but how is making tren from fina pellets different then tren from powder? Not the logistics of making it but the quality of the product?

I've been tinkering with the idea of making my own gear and this intrigues me.
 
The difference is seperating a bunch of glues and binders from the tren as opposed to working with the raw material. If you've got the raw material I'm sure its better.
 
thewanderer690 said:
First of all it seems as if the vet stores should be held more liable than the buyers. The vet should be the one entirely at fault b/c they are supposed to verify ownership.

Well, the reality is that they claim ignorace and it works for them, so the buyer gets the kick in the ass.
 
ceo said:
If that happens a lot of folks here will be fucked.

Not like it would though. Besides, the evidence would be long gone. ;)

Actually the evidence would not be gone. The fina might be gone but the paper trail you left buying the stuff is still there and more then enough to get your ass in trouble.

The paper trial is what stops me from using a kit. And after crunching some numbers I don't think it's all that cost effective. Do your own math but if you have a supplier of tren acetate powder you don't need to leave a paper trail and you don't have to fuck around getting the stuff out of the binders.


I know there are a ton of people using fina kits and that's fine with me but I don't think I'm going to do that.
 
Big_Joe said:
Actually the evidence would not be gone. The fina might be gone but the paper trail you left buying the stuff is still there and more then enough to get your ass in trouble.

The paper trial is what stops me from using a kit. And after crunching some numbers I don't think it's all that cost effective. Do your own math but if you have a supplier of tren acetate powder you don't need to leave a paper trail and you don't have to fuck around getting the stuff out of the binders.


I know there are a ton of people using fina kits and that's fine with me but I don't think I'm going to do that.
Yeah but there is no legal issue of owning the pellets or the kit. It's when you put them together that it becomes illegal. They would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you actually did the conversion and they would either have to find you in the process or find some of the end product. I don't think they are going to be doing small time raids with such a low chance of actually proving their cases. As much attention as steroids have been getting they have bigger fish to fry. The only thing that might happen is more stringent laws on the purchase of the pellets.
 
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