Oral cycle?

[PeppersFan90]

Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a decent mass building oral-only cycle that will allow me to keep most of my gains. I've seen several people say to avoid this but what if I take liver cleansers/protectors like "Liv-52"? Any ideas on it's efficiency? Mainly can't do an injectable cycle because my wife STRICTLY forbids it and has even threatened separation if I do any injections! So far I've found this oral plan for an 8 week cycle:

Weeks 1-8 50 mg Methan50 (D-bol) per day
Weeks 1-8 25 mg Proviron per day
Weeks 1-8 3 Liv-52 per day.

Starting on day 1, take half tablet of Methan50, 1 Proviron , and 1 Liv-52 about an hour before your workout. Before bed, take 2 more Liv-52 and another half tablet of Methan50. Do this for 8 weeks, and continue to take the Liv-52 for 10 days after the end of the cycle.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

 

[goin on 4T]

First please tell me why she is so against an injectable cycle?



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[joeblow12345]

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[psizzle_8]

First please tell me why she is so against an injectable cycle?



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She's probably just uneducated. To most people the thought of people jabbing themselves with needles seems more dangerous than pill popping

 

[Pound4PoundAAS]

She's probably just uneducated. To most people the thought of people jabbing themselves with needles seems more dangerous than pill popping

And it's usually the other way around

 

[psizzle_8]

And it's usually the other way around

Yup. People who haven't researched it don't understand that though

 

[bigbassturd]

Whoa buddy, 8 weeks is way too long to be running two orals. And you're not gonna want to start off with dbol at 50mg a day.

30mg is plenty on a first cycle, and limit it to 4 weeks.

N2Guard will cover all bases as far as liver, blood pressure, etc.

Did you read up on that pct I outlined?

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[bigbassturd]

Btw proviron and dbol have two opposite purposes...

pick what suits your goals

 

[Pound4PoundAAS]

Whoa buddy, 8 weeks is way too long to be running two orals. And you're not gonna want to start off with dbol at 50mg a day.

30mg is plenty on a first cycle, and limit it to 4 weeks.

N2Guard will cover all bases as far as liver, blood pressure, etc.

Did you read up on that pct I outlined?

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Provion isn't 17a but still way too long to run dbol

 

[PeppersFan90]

It's basically what you guys are saying... She just automatically thinks "injecting=extremely dangerous". She worries about the source/gear and how I know what I'm injecting. She's so against it even though I've tried to explain the process and that what I'm wanting to inject (Test Cyp) is technically already present, I'm just upping the amounts. BigBass, read up on what you were telling me earlier, wasn't sure if an oral would require the same PCT, was going to ask you. As for stats, 27 yo, 6', 209 lbs. From what I've read, I thought 6-8 weeks was an acceptable D-bol cycle and the Proviron was already bundled together with the other two products, that's why I just left it in the stack.

 

[brownbrown]

Running dbol that long is going to suck. And a dbol only cycle will just puff you up for a little while. As soon as you stop most of it goes away.
I would stack it with something else and not run it so long. Or just drop some a bombs (adrol), fuck I like abombs

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[squat till ya drop]

Running dbol that long is going to suck. And a dbol only cycle will just puff you up for a little while. As soon as you stop most of it goes away.
I would stack it with something else and not run it so long. Or just drop some a bombs (adrol), fuck I like abombs

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U prefer oxys? Would you say a drol cycle is superior to a dbol cycle? Most people ive spoken to say the opposite

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[auslifter90]

dbol and prov is a great idea, keep off some of the bloat etc
i would still use adex or aromasin.... and 8 weeks is too long especially if its your first cycle. after a while your liver adapts but id give it a few years and even then i would be taking every precaution
50g would be ok... 40mg would be fine also. 30mg maybe, and run it at 6 weeks and make sure you use milk thistle, n acetyl cysteine etc, liv 52 is great as well

 

[goin on 4T]

If you choose the dbol you will need to run adex or else you will bloat like crazy. I ran it a few weeks ago and was amazed how much water my body would hold if I missed one day of adex. The amount you need to run is dependent on the quality of the source gear, 30g is great if it really has 30g however we all know some of these guys are just liars and cheats.
I predict next year at this time whether she knows it or not you will run injectable and at best she won't want to know. It's a slow process. Maybe start by introducing her to male HRT, it's gaining popularity and there are even commercials for it on Monday night football. If YOU want to that is.


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[infraredline]

Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a decent mass building oral-only cycle that will allow me to keep most of my gains. I've seen several people say to avoid this but what if I take liver cleansers/protectors like "Liv-52"? Any ideas on it's efficiency? Mainly can't do an injectable cycle because my wife STRICTLY forbids it and has even threatened separation if I do any injections! So far I've found this oral plan for an 8 week cycle:

Weeks 1-8 50 mg Methan50 (D-bol) per day
Weeks 1-8 25 mg Proviron per day
Weeks 1-8 3 Liv-52 per day.

Starting on day 1, take half tablet of Methan50, 1 Proviron , and 1 Liv-52 about an hour before your workout. Before bed, take 2 more Liv-52 and another half tablet of Methan50. Do this for 8 weeks, and continue to take the Liv-52 for 10 days after the end of the cycle.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

In regards to an oral if you want very keep able gains epi, var, tbol, or Hdrol are gonna be the ones you want to look for, you could run proviron with any of these and you would want to stick with a 6 week cycle

If you were to run one of these this is how you would dose them

You would run epi @ 40mg
Tbol @ 50mg
Var @50-70mg
Hdrol @ 50/50/75/75/100/100

(Only choose one of the above though)

However the other guys are right you would be better off with an injectable

 

[PeppersFan90]

Thanks for all the input guys. I'll research all of this and come back with any questions. I do prefer injectable and was prepared to do a cycle of just Test Cyp but the main thing that stopped me was the hCG and it needing to be refrigerated... I feel like I could probably hide most everything but that, but it still sucks to have to hide all the things I'd be using. Maybe she'll come around eventually, she's really against any and all steroid use but I figured if I could get any results out of orals, they'd be easier to get by with.

 

[bigbassturd]

Thanks for all the input guys. I'll research all of this and come back with any questions. I do prefer injectable and was prepared to do a cycle of just Test Cyp but the main thing that stopped me was the hCG and it needing to be refrigerated... I feel like I could probably hide most everything but that, but it still sucks to have to hide all the things I'd be using. Maybe she'll come around eventually, she's really against any and all steroid use but I figured if I could get any results out of orals, they'd be easier to get by with.

With a mild test dose you could get by with using HCGenerate in place of hcg, and it is pill form

my wife has no clue about my gear use

 

[PeppersFan90]

Well, I was looking to do 2cc/week (1 shot of 250mg twice a week) would you consider that mild? As far as the HCGenerate, would I take it just like I would the shot (2 servings per week), so a bottle would last me 15 weeks?