Oral Anabolics

[Jypsy]

So this is my first post on EliteFitness and I'm new too the world of anabolics.
I'm still young and wouldn't even be looking into them if my day to day job wasn't so physical. If been battling the problem of over training for the better part of the last year and it's starting to cause a lot of problem, mainly in my shoulders.
This all being said, I'd rather avoid injectables and I'm wondering if something like Test 600 would be appropriate. Ive read it can be used to stack with and is still potent on its own, but has anyone tried this? Should I couple it with something else?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

P.S, I'm aware I haven't created my profile, so for informations sake, I'm 20 years old, 5' 11" and only 120lbs.
I trained for a couple years between 14-16 and have been back at it since I was 18.

 

[Jypsy]

I should probably be specific. Forgetting the product I mentioned,
Would something testosterone based be appropriate?
Just a clarafication.

 

[rustilldown]

I should probably be specific. Forgetting the product I mentioned,
Would something testosterone based be appropriate?
Just a clarafication.

No advice for anyone under 21. Try some creapure and joint complexes to help with nagging injuries, creapure did wonders for my strength back when I was 20 and seemed
To help with my shoulder , that plus some glucosamine should help you push past some plateaus and rehab your shoulder. Ps. At 5'11 120 what you really need is more food.

 

[Jypsy]

Creating helped make the problems worse but I'll check into the glucosamine.
I don't know where you are bud, but I live in Canada. I'm age of majority at 18. I can legally drink and buy tabbaco. Soo you don't need to patronize me by calling me underage in your round about way. I'm looking for information, not for you too sell me drugs. And I can honestly say I've done a lot worse things than some g.d steroids.

 

[rustilldown]

Creating helped make the problems worse but I'll check into the glucosamine.
I don't know where you are bud, but I live in Canada. I'm age of majority at 18. I can legally drink and buy tabbaco. Soo you don't need to patronize me by calling me underage in your round about way. I'm looking for information, not for you too sell me drugs. And I can honestly say I've done a lot worse things than some g.d steroids.

Just stating the rules of the board. I live in Edmonton and I know the legal age. But at 20 your body hasn't finished growing and you may stunt yourself by messing with your hormones. Didn't mean to patronize just giving solid honest advice. I am a carpenter and know all about overtraining it sucks having a passion for weights yet having to work 70 hours most weeks.. Actually I found GABA Is a great supp to take before bed to help me increase my deep sleep to recover. Powdered form is best and take on an empty stomach.. Increased sleep has really allowed me to train harder and more often

 

[Jypsy]

Exactly my frustration. I eat at least 6 times a day and can't find the time too stuff in extra meals. Especially adding in a half hr to try and keep my metabolism slower after eating. And I can completely relate to the 70hr weeks. This isn't something I haven't given a lot of thought too, and I'm completely aware of the risks. I'm aware my body isn't finished growing hence why I'm avoiding injectables. I'm not looking to sit in the gym 4 times a day, just something extra to help me repair. I'm a little fed up buying supps that just don't work.

 

[Jypsy]

Most recently my shoulder is so over worked that's it's been having spasms for the last 6 days. It's not healing regardless of time away from the gym, work just won't allow it. I'm a little on the edge of options.

 

[dylangemelli]

nobody is tryin to be a dick to here you or make you feel bad about anything, but you seriously have to be fucking kidding me... 120 fucking pounds and 20 years old? and you want to take steroids... its not even an option... you have NO IDEA what your getting yourself into... being able to drink and smoke has NOTHING to do with this... that doesnt mean shit... so does that mean because you can drive at 16 that its okay then too? just your attitude to someone just trying to help is bull shit... your 5'11" bro... your like 50 pounds underweight... you need to get some n2bulk, eat a lot and let your body grow like its supposed to... don't get an attitude about it, listen to people that CARE about your health and well - being... if you were 25, 30, 35 or whatever and you told me you were 120 fucking pounds, i would NEVER recommend steroids for you at all... i promise you that if you take the n2bulk, and eat you will put on so much weight... im lookin out for you like i do for everyone on here... i know what im talking about and don't want you to harm yourself... i can get you a coupon code to order if you want and you will be very happy!

 

[Jypsy]

Exactley my point. I'm that underweight and don't grow.. I've Tryed plenty of gainers, I just shit them out. I'm still not happy.
I'm out of options. So I'm sorry you feel that way. I know ppl younger than myself using them.
So I'm sorry for my "attitude" but I don't appreciate being spoken to like I'm 5. I've spent years trying to combat my lack of weight, that doesn't work. I work jobs guys three times my size are doing. I'm not quite convinced anabolics are worse than the damage I'm doing as it is.

 

[Jypsy]

Everything you've all mentioned I've Tried aside from the joint meds and it's not necessarily my joints although they might be an idea for me. There's not much else I can try. If anyone has an idea that isn't your typical answers(eat more, gainers, creatine, amino acids) I'd love to hear them. I've been listening to "eat more" since I was 10, that's a little old.
I'm out of typical remedys to try. Stuff that works for normall guys just doesn't with me.

 

[dylangemelli]

i can understand and appreciate your frustration and i gurantee you one thing, im one of the coolest motherfuckers your going to run into on any of these forums... i won't ever treat anyone like a kid period, i just want you to have a nice healthy life bro... period... at your age, the answers your going to get are exactly what you listed... your metabolism is obviously crazy high at this point, and thats not necessarily a bad thing... it will slow down as you get older and you will notice it immediately when it does... its possible you could try some daa along with some n2bulk and that may get you over the hump... you don't want to do anything more than that but that would be my other recommendation...

 

[Jypsy]

Now there's an idea bro, thank you. Do you think I should take an estrogen inhibitor with that? As for the gainer, I've got a problem with digesting them. I believe it's the high sugar levels in most, but the glutamine in them has no effect and messes with my other doses because of the generally large amounts in the gainers.
I am doing my own research don't get me wrong, however nothing beats applied knowledge.

 

[bigbassturd]

You've never tried anything like N2Bulk bro trust me. Listen to dylan, he's one of the guys who's results speak for themselves, he knows his shit. Steroids are nothing like any other drug/substance out there. You are talking about messing with hormone levels here, which can cause serious problems or kill you if not done right and at the right age. You still have a few years before you should be hitting your natural potential levels, so the best thing for you to do right now is research, get yourself some Big Blast, N2Bulk, and eat as much protein from real foods as possible.

When I was 20 I was 5'11" and 140 after 5 years of serious lifting and wasting money on big market weight gainers.

Then I found real supplements. I am now 24, 5'11" and am 195 pounds at 11% body fat. The guys here know the right way to do things and will only try to help you bro.

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[rustilldown]

You should post how much you are actually eating like a meal plan or something. And most weight gainers are garbage, cause indigestion Hershey squirts and bloat.. I have heard great things about need to bulk and am Going to buy some soon as I seem to be stagnant at 192 6'0 about 10% bf. I eat my face off and I swear I go through a jar of natty Peanut butter every week. Peanut butter is a great way to add calories at anytime of the day I will just pound back like 3 tbspoon here and there. What kind of job are you working and have you ever heard about doing strong lifts 5x5 where you only lift hard and heavy 3 times a week? I had better results with that since I was on my feet 10 hours a day working with plywood, hammering, hauling truss' all that physical bs. Anyways keep posting we will help you get to your goals, daa does work fairly well I must admit.

 

[Matthersby]

Exactley my point. I'm that underweight and don't grow.. I've Tryed plenty of gainers, I just shit them out. I'm still not happy.

Another bit of logic here concerning anabolics is, if you are unable to gain naturally, anabolics may help for the short period you are on them, but guaranteed once your cycle is over you will lose every last bit of muscle you put on. Keeping that weight post cycle can be even more difficult than bulking naturally.

 

[CoBra666]

maybe post entire diet and workout in the right sections to make sure you are doing things ideally

 

[Sherk]

If you take steroids being oral or injectable and don't know how to gain weight or even maintain weight naturally, then what do you expect to happen when you cycle off? You will lose it all I bet. Or maybe be in a worse predicament because your muscles grew fast but your legiments and other smaller tissue never did so now your shoulder is even more messed up.

 

[rconner]

I amin almost the same boat as the thread starter. Only I am 24 5'10" 155lbs. Is simply eating more the same advice or would Anabolic steroids be a good idea for that push? Same as thread starter I eat nonstop, been taking creatine for 3 months, drinking one whey protein shake and 3 mass gainer shakes a day for a total of about 140g protien from the supps. This is not counting any protien from grilled chx and fish I eat daily.

PS. I have gained only 3 lbs from eating this much. I have never been one to gain weight no matter how much I eat or drink

 

[dylangemelli]

I amin almost the same boat as the thread starter. Only I am 24 5'10" 155lbs. Is simply eating more the same advice or would Anabolic steroids be a good idea for that push? Same as thread starter I eat nonstop, been taking creatine for 3 months, drinking one whey protein shake and 3 mass gainer shakes a day for a total of about 140g protien from the supps. This is not counting any protien from grilled chx and fish I eat daily.

PS. I have gained only 3 lbs from eating this much. I have never been one to gain weight no matter how much I eat or drink

you are not in the same boat as the thread starter because you are 24 and so you could run a cycle... hes not even 21... you have a lot more options and things would be much more practical for you and much safer than for him...

 

[hydez27]

Dude post your basic diet , i wanna hear what your eating


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[CoBra666]

The reason you can eat anything without gaining weight is because you don't eat a lot. I know you think you do, but you don't. Otherwise you wouldn't be skinny. Track calories for proof. I used to be like that too. couldn't get above 145 lbs. And that means eating properly, not caloric dense garbage