Opinions - Test alone or Test + D-bol?

[Silent Method]

Ok guys, need some help making up my mind for my next cycle. This will be my second, the first was test (omnadren) at 500mg/week. I had planned 8 weeks and had to cut it short to 6.5 weeks - and still made some great gains. I had a bit of hair loss and some pretty bad acne on my back, both of which I wish to limit as much as possible in the future. (Using proscar, nizoral, polysorbate 80, some over the counter acne meds, assorted anti-acne tips and tricks, and maybe spironolactone if I can get it, for my next cycle.)

For my next cycle I'm going to do test at about 600mg/week for 10 weeks. Now, should I add d-bol for the first 5 weeks? If I do, should I try 15mg/day or jump right to 25mg/day?

I know it's kind of a weak ass question - maybe I'm just looking for a little encouragement to try the d-bol. Anyway, thanks for reading my ramble...

 

[mrhamilton]

stats?

what are your stats and goals? what type of test are you going to be using?(yes it does matter, no matter what you hear test is not test) get some accutane for the acne or atleast some tetracyline.

 

[Silent Method]

Forgot to mention, I will have some tetracyline but I do not want to use it if I don't have to. Usin omna. I'm about 6 foot 2, 215lbs, and not sure of my bf as I'm typing this, probably 12-13%. My goals? To build lean body mass. Its summer so I'll probably be a bit conservative with my diet.

 

[johnboy]

throw in some deca ;o)

I am doing a Dbol, deca, test cycle now

wks 1-12 sustanon250 500mg/wk
wks 1-8 deca 400mg/wk
wks 1-4 Dbol 40mg/day
wks 6-12 fina 100mg/day
wks 6-12 winny 60mg/day
wks 6-12 clen 80mg/day
wks 6-12 T3 75mcg/day
wks 1-17 .5mg liquidex/day
wks 6-12 100mg proviron/day
wks 1-12 ALA
wks 1-12 super cranberry extract
wks 1-12 2 galons of water/day


I'm hopeing to be one Big cut mofo after this cycle.

 

[tbod1]

The sides for dbol are just too bad for me personally. I feel like shit, very lethargic and my back hurts all the time.........Just give me test and I'm happy. Alot of people swear by it though.

 

[Taomaster]

Throw in something that will give you LASTING gains. Dbol is not for that. The test is a necessary base for synergy of other compounds. Consider doing the entire cycle with 300-400mg deca or equipoise. Otherwise, too hard to keep gains when it is all over.
I have used Dbol in all of my past cycles. Have only done 3 cycles in past 1 1/2. Gains incredible, but I found that the effects really wore off after 6 weeks. This cycle I am keeping it down to 4 weeks, because the best gain for me is in that range. I love Equipoise, but it is of almost same chemical structure as D-bol, so I keep them separated during my cycles. Will start new cycle in three weeks, with 15mg week 1 and 25 mg weeks 2-4 Dbol and Deca first four weeks, then Test and Equipoise, with some other stuff thereafter.

 

[Silent Method]

Deca is out for this cycle anyway. (Dosen't go to well with the proscar anyway) As for the d-bol being ineffective for permanent gains, we know this is up for debate, especially when stacked with something good (like test ). On top of that, the fast effect d-bol has on strength and endurance would be a boost to training - regardless of any anabolic support d-bol would provide, this would help build muscle.

I dunno. Maybe I'll try some low dose d-bol, see how it goes, and scrap it if I don't like it.

 

[benchboy55]

i'm starting my d-bol/ omna/liquidex cycle monday

 

[Silent Method]

i'm starting my d-bol/ omna/liquidex cycle monday

Whats your cycle look like?

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

D-bol is terrific with test.It will kick-start your strength/anabolism and act synergistically with the test though non-A/R mediated anabolism.25mgs/day from start to finish will work terrific.

 

[Silent Method]

Ok everyone, Huck gave me the thumbs up on the d-bol. No more input needed - the d-bol is in! GRRRRRRRRR!!

 

[SDRaver]

This last monthe I phased in d-bol along w/test to see the difference while on Liquidex. First time I've been hard and vasuclar looking while on D-bol. Yes the weight gain was not as much but that is of no concern since it shows liquidex is doing what's supposed to

 

[Silent Method]

Good deal. I'm using liquidex with this cycle. I've heard nothing but the most positive feed back about it. I'll see how it goes, but I'm guessing that it's going to be a staple cycle component for me from now on.

 

[Bam Bam]

Huck beat me to it. I was going to say that D-bol is an awesome AS. You will get incredible strength gains in just a few weeks. The only downfall may be more acne and hairloss. I used D-bol for the first time a year and a half ago and I'll never do another bulk cycle without it. Good luck, and Karma for Huck because I owe him a bunch. BamBam

 

[Silent Method]

RE: d-bol

The only downfall may be more acne and hairloss.

See now your scaring me again. (<deep breath> I'm better prepared than last time, it wasn't that bad, acne's gone now, just a tad thinner up top, you'll be ok, just think of the gains, think of the gains...)

 

[Bam Bam]

LOL, I took finasteride and minocycline with my last test and d-bol cycle and didn't have any of those problems. BamBam

 

[argent]

Was that d-bol for the whole ten weeks or the first five you got the thumbs up on?

 

[Raffaz]

Re: stats?

what are your stats and goals? what type of test are you going to be using?(yes it does matter, no matter what you hear test is not test) get some accutane for the acne or atleast some tetracyline.

How is test not test, i will be interested to hear your opinion on this one.

 

[Silent Method]

How is test not test, i will be interested to hear your opinion on this one.

Good point, didn't catch that one...

 

[benchboy55]

Whats your cycle look like?

this cycle was helped woth Huck....
1000 mg omna 1-2
750 3-10
d-bol 35 mgs ed
liquidex 1 mg eod
clmos post cycle

stats are 5'11 245lifting for years

 

[benchboy55]

sorry d-bol is weeks 1-6