Opinion weeding.

[porkeatingcrusader]

So, I CONSIDERED trying some Test300. I've read this and that and heard that and this. Its all at least somewhat contradictory. I hear you don't need anything but the test, I've heard you need clomid afterwards and you don't, I've heard that you don't need novaldex and I've heard you do.
With that being said; someone with some experience clarify a little bit. 1cc/wk for 10wks first cycle, would it be unnecessary to take something to help with recovery or not. My source doesn't and he is doing well. He's also 8 years older than I am, so I would assume on average I would be better suited in recovery naturally more so than he.

Also, it would be appreciated if there weren't any unnecessary dickery.

 

[Aplopez8]

Pct-yes
You Cycling - bad
Steroid dealer brain- non existent

 

[porkeatingcrusader]

Pct-yes
You Cycling - bad
Steroid dealer brain- non existent

None of the info I have read came from my "dealer". It was all online. Google, forums, and numerous other things. All I'm trying to do is clear some misinformation or misunderstanding because you can read one thing, and then the complete opposite a few pages later.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Anybody saying to NOT run a proper pct after your cycle is a damn fool....

Not only does it help retain all the gains you make, but it's the only safe way to restore your natural hormones to their pre cycle #'s

If you do not recover properly, you risk never having your natural testosterone return to a healthy range, as well as piss away all the hard work you put in over those 10 weeks.

--CYCLE--PCT--TIME OFF(cycle + pct length)--CYCLE AGAIN--

 

[stevesmi]

you should never consult 'a friend' or 'a dealer' for steroid advice.. also most forums just parrot the same bullshit over and over

a complete PCT is necessary, assuming you actually want to keep your gains.. I do not doubt your dealer does pct.. why would he? he just stays on year round

 

[porkeatingcrusader]

Anybody saying to NOT run a proper pct after your cycle is a damn fool....

Not only does it help retain all the gains you make, but it's the only safe way to restore your natural hormones to their pre cycle #'s

If you do not recover properly, you risk never having your natural testosterone return to a healthy range, as well as piss away all the hard work you put in over those 10 weeks.

--CYCLE--PCT--TIME OFF(cycle + pct length)--CYCLE AGAIN--

I thought so, I just wanted to check. Thanks man.

 

[porkeatingcrusader]

you should never consult 'a friend' or 'a dealer' for steroid advice.. also most forums just parrot the same bullshit over and over

a complete PCT is necessary, assuming you actually want to keep your gains.. I do not doubt your dealer does pct.. why would he? he just stays on year round

Thanks.

 

[Jay Scott]

Pct-yes
You Cycling - bad
Steroid dealer brain- non existent

Plain and simple - haha

Run test 2cc/week for 12 weeks, have aromasin or arimidex on hand for estrogen control, and you definitely need nolva+clomid for pct

 

[Lev Butlerov]

You should always run the proper ancillaries on cycle, and do a complete PCT even with milder compounds than testosterone. If you are going to use testosterone only, then you should be using Aromasin from the first day of the cycle in order to prevent estrogen related side effects. Anyone telling that you should use that only when side effects take place is not your friend. Think about it yourself - it is much healthier and easier to prevent side effects, rather than deal with them.

Then, after the cycle run a complete PCT. Here is an example of a very comprehensive PCT - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/ It may seem like a lot, but keep in mind that the better the PCT, the more gains you will keep after finishing the cycle, the easier it will be to recover, and the healthier it will be.

 

[muskate]

Here is a good video for you to watch on how to properly do a first steroid cycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqBLCSaKsW4

A simple testosterone cycle of 10-12 weeks at 400-500mg/week is your best option for a first cycle. Being new to steroids, your body will hyper respond and you don't need a very aggressive cycle. It's very similar to an 18 year old having their first drink. A single drink really hits them because they have never drank before. However, a more experienced drinker would need much more alcohol to get the same effect.


This sport is all about progression. It's a marathon. You want to start slowly and work your way up. For a second cycle you can do testosterone + an oral as a kick start. For a third cycle you can do testosterone + an anabolic + an oral as a kick start, etc. If you start with a very aggressive cycle right off the bat, where will you go from there when you plateau? By starting slow you leave 'all your aces in the hole' and will be able to make progressive gains for a long time.


Here's what I recommend:


Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day


After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/


You can order everything you need for the cycle and the PCT protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

I would run this as a first cycle:

Weeks 1-12
Test 500mg per week
Armoasin 12.5mg EOD

Perfect PCT - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/