Once shut Down HARD!

[JKurz1]

But slowlyyyyy coming back.....did a nice pct about a month ago and my t scores have moved from low 150s to 400.......when I do rebound completely, what would you reccomend for someone who's been off for 2 years and shut down hard? Something small......like a sus 250mg/wk, a little dbol and a little eq for 10 weeks max? No deca, right? Npp?

In stock I have the above, plus tren, winny and some prop......what would you do? And for a solid pct to follow? Mucho K!

 

[lawnsaver]

mid 400's is pretty damn good!!

I am not sure where you started??

500 to 800 is pretty good!!

 

[JKurz1]

mid 400's is pretty damn good!!

I am not sure where you started??

500 to 800 is pretty good!!

so, what do you think?

 

[view]

imo, length is the key. i was in your shoes before, and if I don't go over 8-9 weeks, i can recover fine every time. 12-14 weeks is just too hard to recover from.

deca/tren are fine if you use dostinex.

 

[yomama]

imo, length is the key. i was in your shoes before, and if I don't go over 8-9 weeks, i can recover fine every time. 12-14 weeks is just too hard to recover from.

deca/tren are fine if you use dostinex.

deca isnt easy to recover from, in most people it will shrink nuts.

 

[LVTitan]

deca isnt easy to recover from, in most people it will shrink nuts.

it will all shrink your nuts. some people have bad recovery from deca, and bad sides, i didnt have any probs with deca but i ran it with test.
is eq based on nandrolone ? anyone know what ancillaries should be taken with EQ if any ?

 

[JKurz1]

so, eq, test, dbol?

 

[gregory]

If you get shut down hard for a long time i would reconsider cycling all together and just waiting till you can go on HRT. But if that is not an option i would definitely stay away from longer esters, then things line nondrolones. So basic lower dosed 6 weekers of test would be my preference, especially in esters no longer then a Enanthate and finishing off with a prop. Then HCG and Nolva.

 

[JKurz1]

If you get shut down hard for a long time i would reconsider cycling all together and just waiting till you can go on HRT. But if that is not an option i would definitely stay away from longer esters, then things line nondrolones. So basic lower dosed 6 weekers of test would be my preference, especially in esters no longer then a Enanthate and finishing off with a prop. Then HCG and Nolva.

so at what dose what you reccomend sith sus, eq and dbol?

 

[gregory]

SUST is a no no, the deconate ester is way too long, EQ is a nondrolone based drug and i would shy way from it as well. Dbol taken early in the AM @ 10-20mg daily would make a nice 6 weeker, with Arimidex in the mix. Test @ 300-400 mg should be just fine.

 

[view]

deca isnt easy to recover from, in most people it will shrink nuts.

Have you learned anything since you signed up at this board? nope.

All gear shrinks your nuts you idiot. the reason deca gets a bad wrap is because elevated prolactin levels make it harder to recover from. dostinex solves that problem.

and nut size means jack shit, especially when you factor in HCG use.

 

[mstigi]

hey view, lower your dosage and calm down, we're all here to learn no need for name calling.....

 

[DIVISION]

hey view, lower your dosage and calm down, we're all here to learn no need for name calling.....

Yes, nugga........

but when kids ask the same questions over and over and say stupid shit that everyone should know........it becomes tedious.




DIV

 

[view]

I'll blame it on the tren. yomama has given out so much bad advice since he signed up though.

 

[DIVISION]

I'll blame it on the tren. yomama has given out so much bad advice since he signed up though.

I feel ya'......

I'm on Halotestin as we SPEAK...........nuggggggggggggga!





DIV

 

[yomama]

Have you learned anything since you signed up at this board? nope.

All gear shrinks your nuts you idiot. the reason deca gets a bad wrap is because elevated prolactin levels make it harder to recover from. dostinex solves that problem.

and nut size means jack shit, especially when you factor in HCG use.

All gear shrinks nuts? Havent you been to the poll you moron? There was a poll about who gets nut shrincage and gyno. Half the people got nuts shrunk and half didnt from gear. So fuck you dumbfuck.

 

[LVTitan]

All gear shrinks nuts? Havent you been to the poll you moron? There was a poll about who gets nut shrincage and gyno. Half the people got nuts shrunk and half didnt from gear. So fuck you dumbfuck.

that is true... i know it all shuts you down, but i never had any shrinkage in my boys. forgot about that poll .

 

[gjohnson5]

But slowlyyyyy coming back.....did a nice pct about a month ago and my t scores have moved from low 150s to 400.......when I do rebound completely, what would you reccomend for someone who's been off for 2 years and shut down hard? Something small......like a sus 250mg/wk, a little dbol and a little eq for 10 weeks max? No deca, right? Npp?

In stock I have the above, plus tren, winny and some prop......what would you do? And for a solid pct to follow? Mucho K!

Good to hear that your pct worked! Your test levels were speared and jackhammered, definitly. I think you said you were doing diet pills. Did getting of those help?

 

[JKurz1]

Good to hear that your pct worked! Your test levels were speared and jackhammered, definitly. I think you said you were doing diet pills. Did getting of those help?

yuop..ditched...thanks brutha..feel like a zillion bucks......weight is up, strength is moving.........reccomend me something SMALL>.....

 

[gjohnson5]

yuop..ditched...thanks brutha..feel like a zillion bucks......weight is up, strength is moving.........reccomend me something SMALL>.....

Merry Christmas , definitly!!!

I need to experiment more in this area myself , but are your goals mass now?
Maybe stay away from the highly androgenic drugs and use less angrogenic / primarily anabolic gear

 

[JKurz1]

a buddy said to try 50mg of prop e3d......would be pretty small and maybe just level me out? What do you think? Add the dbol eq and sus?

 

[gjohnson5]

a buddy said to try 50mg of prop e3d......would be pretty small and maybe just level me out? What do you think? Add the dbol eq and sus?

dbol is another that is androgenic and you'll see side effects. why not test , eq , winstrol

 

[JKurz1]

dbol is another that is androgenic and you'll see side effects. why not test , eq , winstrol

That sounds good......just that I got about 100 tabs, so I want to use them, but they could wait...this way, I wouldnt have to get the armidex.....250mg-500mg of test, 400mg eq, 50mg winny, eod for the last 2nd 4 weeks? 8 week cycle total?

 

[Goldprospector]

a buddy said to try 50mg of prop e3d......would be pretty small and maybe just level me out? What do you think?

I may be off on this but I don't think that adding any amount of test will help you body to produce more of stabilize. But it seems to me as you have it under control now anyway. My opinion is you need to stay with short esters and weeks. I would start out with trying Test Prop at roughly 250mg per week that would work good @ 75mg's EOD and would average to 525 mg's every 2 weeks or 262mg's per week.
I don't think it would hurt to throw in D-bol, but if you got Winny coming then that would work too. I would use it in the last 4 to 6 weeks of the cycle. I would run it for no more than 8 weeks, and start a good PCT and see how it recovers from there. Since recovery was a problem in the past...I would try to stay with shorter cycles. I also don't agree with what most people say about "Frying Receptor sites" They don't fry or get used up...they may die out just like every other cell in you body but they will reproduce also. My point is, stay with the small doses as long as you can until you reach your genetic limit (who knows what that is) and you will never need to go to 1000 mgs a week for 16 weeks just to grow a few pounds of muscle

 

[JKurz1]

So you don't like the idea of EQ?? Here's what I got so far...8-10 week cycle MAX....

1-10 50-75 mg prop m-w-f
6-10 50 mg winni eod
1-10 400-500 mg eq/wk split mon & thurs

 

[John C Calhoun]

If you get shut down hard for a long time i would reconsider cycling all together and just waiting till you can go on HRT. But if that is not an option i would definitely stay away from longer esters, then things line nondrolones. So basic lower dosed 6 weekers of test would be my preference, especially in esters no longer then a Enanthate and finishing off with a prop. Then HCG and Nolva.

I agree. If you are shut down hard for long periods of time maybe the best thing to do is avoid the juice, but if you want to try something, try primo since it has the least tendency to shut down your own natural test. Around 400 mg/wk for 8 weeks rarely results in major shutdown.

 

[JKurz1]

So you don't like the idea of EQ?? Here's what I got so far...8-10 week cycle MAX....

1-10 50-75 mg prop m-w-f
6-10 50 mg winni eod
1-10 400-500 mg eq/wk split mon & thurs

No primo bro..this is what I was looking to? Anyone agree?

 

[Goldprospector]

No primo bro..this is what I was looking to? Anyone agree?

I know everyone responds different to every AAS, but I used BL's EQ @ 400 mg per cc @ 1 cc E6D for 10 weeks and the recovery was the most difficult of all the cycles that I have done. I guess that I just don't like EQ. But as far as a basic "first cycle" (since you lost a lot of size during your prolonged recover) you should grow nicely on what ever you choose. Either way, I would stick with nore more than 8 weeks to see how I would recover from that. BTW, I have had really good luck with recovery while using HCG during the cycle so there would not be any atrophy to begin with.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

But slowlyyyyy coming back.....did a nice pct about a month ago and my t scores have moved from low 150s to 400.......when I do rebound completely, what would you reccomend for someone who's been off for 2 years and shut down hard? Something small......like a sus 250mg/wk, a little dbol and a little eq for 10 weeks max? No deca, right? Npp?

In stock I have the above, plus tren, winny and some prop......what would you do? And for a solid pct to follow? Mucho K!

stay low

 

[JKurz1]

stay low

agree..think i am too high??

 

[yomama]

So you don't like the idea of EQ?? Here's what I got so far...8-10 week cycle MAX....

1-10 50-75 mg prop m-w-f
6-10 50 mg winni eod
1-10 400-500 mg eq/wk split mon & thurs

400mg eq/wk
600mg test/wk
50mg winny or dbol
run all thruout the cycle

 

[JKurz1]

dbol for first 4 and winny for last 4?????

 

[yomama]

dbol for first 4 and winny for last 4?????

sure