On Cycle Arimidex & HCG - before & after Bloodwork

[ryan666]

25th feb bloodwork
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Testosterone: 8.21 (Ref Range: 9.9-27.8)
Calcium: 2.21 (Ref Range: 2.3-2.6)
Estradiol: 232.7 (Ref Range: 30-130)
FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - : 0.127 (Ref Range: 2-9)
Progesterone: 1.02 (Ref Range: 1.7-4.2)
T4 thyroxine: 28.66 (Ref Range: 12-22)
TSH: 1.3 (Ref Range: 0.27-4.2)
Cholesterol: 4.8 (Ref Range: <5)
Triglycerides: 1.08
Prolactin: 205.6 (Ref Range: <430)
Liver & kidney function ok (dont have the level of these though)

Added 0.5mg arimidex eod, 3 days of clomid @ 20mg and hcg 1500 iu on 2nd march. Increased test cyp to 500mg/wk. tren hex remains @ 200mg/wk

Today, 9 days after the first set of bw, I got some bw again to see if the arimidex is working
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Testosterone: 7.72 (Ref Range: 9.9-27.8)
Calcium: 2.12 (Ref Range: 2.3-2.6)
Estradiol: 337 (Ref Range: 30-130)
FSH: 0.10 (Ref Range: 2-9)
LSH: 0.10
Progesterone: 0.995 (Ref Range: 1.7-4.2)
T4 thyroxine: 23.33 (Ref Range: 12-22)
TSH: 2.16 (Ref Range: 0.27-4.2)
SHBG: 9.05
Hcg beta: 2.33
Prolactin: 225.4 (Ref Range: <430)
Liver & kidney function ok (hgb slightly high, rest of results in range)

Generally I've been feeling a lot better since arimidex, but I still feel itchy nipples n not a great
Libido but im packing on GOOD SIZE since my first bw on the 25 feb.

I would have expected my LH and fsh to increase by the hcg, but it seems not, or maybe it's early days..

I read about avoiding high dosage of arimidex, but I'm going to try 1mg/day as it seems like my e2 are higher than before!

Advice is most appreciated!!

 

[Sinister Minister]

I don't understand why your testosterone levels have slightly dipped since the first test? And also why is your testosterone not thru the roof right now on test cyp and tren hex???

 

[stevesmi]

only advice i can give you is finish your cycle if you are making good gains. hike up your hcg then run a PCT.

you are only gonna drive yourself crazy running bloods during cycle.. your numbers are gonna be all over the place. you are running hormones, ancillaries, AI's all at once so your body doesn't know what to do except to shut itself down.

 

[Sinister Minister]

Your estrogen levels have increased and the progesterone levels are low!! If using tren then your progesterone levels should be getting very high without the use of caber, prami or some sort of dopamine inhibitor! Are you sure your tren is real?? Reason I ask is bc tren hex is actually another name for parabolan which is probably the strongest (at least top 3) aas out there and it's also the most widely faked gear out there as well!!! You should only get that from a credible lab bc about 85% of the home brews or unknown labs are fake!!

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ whatever he is using is doing something .. he is as shutodwn as he could be. I will bet he has been on AAS for way too long now

also to the OP its not LSH, its LH. that and your FSH is pretty much shutdown. your body is asleep. make sure you have a great PCT lined up

 

[ryan666]

Yes I am using parabolan by xxx, they're in vials at 76mg. Credible source.. Look pretty legite to me. The cyp is testex I now take 250mg twice a week.

Hcg I've taken 1500ui 5 days ago. Been told to take 1500iu e7d, is this ok? Also good to increase my arimidex to 1mg ed?

I'm just suprised why my test levels have dipped even more since I'm on 500mg/wk now.

 

[Sinister Minister]

^^^ whatever he is using is doing something .. he is as shutodwn as he could be. I will bet he has been on AAS for way too long now

also to the OP its not LSH, its LH. that and your FSH is pretty much shutdown. your body is asleep. make sure you have a great PCT lined up

Steve, correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't his testosterone levels be sky high or well above the avg ranges stated? Not necessarily the free test but just test overall in the first catagory??? With 500mg of test a week it should be very high?? And the progestin levels should be really high too with the tren??

 

[Sinister Minister]

Yes I am using parabolan by alpha pharma, they're in vials at 76mg. Credible source.. Look pretty legite to me. The cyp is testex I now take 250mg twice a week.

Hcg I've taken 1500ui 5 days ago. Been told to take 1500iu e7d, is this ok? Also good to increase my arimidex to 1mg ed?

I'm just suprised why my test levels have dipped even more since I'm on 500mg/wk now.

Please don't mention labs on here... That is against rules bro! I wasn't asking for your sources or anything just wanting you to confirm its legit

 

[stevesmi]

Steve, correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't his testosterone levels be sky high or well above the avg ranges stated? Not necessarily the free test but just test overall in the first catagory??? With 500mg of test a week it should be very high?? And the progestin levels should be really high too with the tren??

the body doesn't always react to AAS the way it should. yes he should be getting a 1500> reading on his total test. depends on the progestin what he is running as his ancillaries.

the body is recognizing that AAS is in the body

 

[ryan666]

Can you tell me the best way to run the hcg and arimidex in my case? Is 1500 iu e7d and 1mg Ai ed sound ok?

 

[Sinister Minister]

Can you tell me the best way to run the hcg and arimidex in my case? Is 1500 iu e7d and 1mg Ai ed sound ok?

In your case I'd recommend you running the hcg at 250 iu's ed and try the arimidex at 1mg ed as well and go from there. My past with hcg I've found to be a lot better with lower dosages ed rather than 1 blast like that!

 

[Sinister Minister]

Bottom line bro; you need to get off the gear and recoup naturally and make sure it's even possible!! Take some much needed time off to get the testes back to normal and see if you can sustain it... Then later on think about running another cycle after more (much needed) research!!

 

[stevesmi]

what is your past cycle experience? how long have you been on this cycle?

your libido could be crippled for a long time and staying on test (unlike what others on here will tell you) is just gonna SUPPRESS you more and more.

i really hope your LH isn't fried. and do me a favor also and pick up a bottle of hcgenerate, 2 5000iu's of hcg and 3 hits of HMG too. run all 3 together.. don't run clomid with that stack.. run 1250 iu's of the hcg and 2 caps hcgen 3X per day

 

[ryan666]

First time I had a problem with libido. Its not dead, just not as good as before..

Past cycle was test cyp 500mg/wk+boldebol 500mg/wk. for about 6 weeks i think before i swapped boldebolin with the tren hex. This cycle im on about week 5 now (of 10).

i really think it was the EQ that screwed me up.

We dont have access to HCGenerate here, seems like an american product. Have access to the usual hcg, clomid and nolva and some AIs

As Sinister recommended, from yesterday I have been running Arimidex 1mg ED and 250ui of HCG ED. Do you think i should adjust this?

From my first bw, when i discovered my LH/FSH was low, i did 1 shot of 1500ui of HCG and 3 days later done the 2nd set of bw, maybe it wasnt enough tiome for it to kick in? (i hope so)

 

[stevesmi]

predator nutrition carries hcgenerate. its hcg but in herb form and natural. so you don't have to worry about overdosing or having to mix and inject.

i highly recommend you get it.. and get some HMG too. you are too young to have to go on HRT, but it sounds like you abused the shit out of roids enough where you are gonna have to unless you start doing things the right way. nolva and clomid could make your problem worse btw.

 

[ryan666]

Hi steve, im confused here.

let me get this right, you recommend i run 6 caps of hcgenerate a day, 1250uis of HCG per week?, and HMG at what dosage?

And this is while im on the cycle or pct??

your post is a bit confusing. please clarify

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ nothing confusing at all with a little research on your side.. i have a pct below in my signature that explains everything from top to bottom.

i'm saying stop your cycle now.. go on hcgenerate.. run 1250iu's of hcg every 3 days for 2.5 weeks.. and a couple shots of HMG, then go into PCT. the longer you keep running your cycle worse things will get.. want to know my opinion? you were not recovered in the first place. so you have been on juice for a long time now without a break. no wonder you have problems

 

[ryan666]

Hi steve, i will start gathering the goods for the PCT. Got the online source for the HCgenerate. just going to order that one now. I will have to check if i can get hold of HMG anywhere.. first i heard of it.
So to recap;
once i get my PCT stuff together, i will start on hcgenerate @ 6 caps a day (until the bottle runs out), 1250ius of hcg e3d for 2.5 weeks and add 2 shots of HMG somewhere in these 2.5 weeks (at the start or end?),,, and then go "into PCT".
For test cyp, I have read that I should start the clomid pct 3 weeks after the last administration, so i assume this is what you mean by go "into PCT"
Ive been looking at the links in your sig, as far as i can see, after the above (2.5 weeks later), im supposed to run 12.5-25mg clomid every day (for 4 weeks).
Is this the best way to go ?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yes

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Your bloods afterwards are gonna mean alot more than your bloods on..

 

[ryan666]

Thanks a lot steve. I just hope I can get hold of this HMG. seems like what I need!! Also I read somewhere that I should continue on the test for 2 weeks after I finish the tren and not to come off both together. Should I ignore that and follow your advice above?

Also another quick question. If my LH and FSH is supressed, does it mean I should have some testicular atrphy and my balls should be small? for the past few days ive noticed a tingling in my balls and they have been growing.. LOL i hope its a good sign..

As soon as I get hold of this stuff im gunna follow your PCT advice and get bw in a month.

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks a lot steve. I just hope I can get hold of this HMG. seems like what I need!! Also I read somewhere that I should continue on the test for 2 weeks after I finish the tren and not to come off both together. because the guy who told you that doesn't know that test is suppressive.

Should I ignore that and follow your advice above?

up to you who to listen to

Also another quick question. If my LH and FSH is supressed, does it mean I should have some testicular atrphy and my balls should be small?
yes

for the past few days ive noticed a tingling in my balls and they have been growing.. LOL i hope its a good sign..

thats from the hcg you are using. should of ran that from the start and you may not be in this mess.

As soon as I get hold of this stuff im gunna follow your PCT advice and get bw in a month.
gonna take longer than a month to recover since it seems like you never came off before long enough you've essentially been on AAS for a long time.. i would lay off all AAS for 3 months minimum

bold, i hope it works out.