Okay to run gear while on PH's/ or right after PH cycle?

[Izzman]

Hey all, if all goes well I should have my 1st cycle by next week. Thing is Im on 1AD/4AD (This was before I discovered the beauty that is gear...) and have been on for 2 weeks, so I am probably already shut down (sure looks like it down there). I'm really anxious to run my 1st cycle before november/december for personal reasons. Can I run the gear while taking PH's or can I go cold turkey on the PH's now and start the gear as soon as I get it? If I run the gear while on the Ph's that will be a total of 12 weeks (10 week enanthate cycle) that my natural test has been supressed, is that safe? Or Is it really no big deal, I should just stop the PH's and go on the gear and save them for a later time? Or possibly run both? I'd appreciate if someone could shed some light on this matter, thanks.

 

[IHateCrunches]

Do more homework and dont run them together. Matter of fact wait a good portion in between using the pro hormones and the gear. You will still have enough time doyour cycle and end before your desried date. Who knows you may even change your mind or learn how to do things better from now till then.

 

[Izzman]

Bump, so how long should I stay off the PH before I run the gear, 2 weeks since I was on for 2 weeks? Also, just curious, why shouldnt they be run together?

 

[ripper2]

there is no reason why you can't run them simultaneously.

if you've already been on them for 2wks i wouldn't go cold turkey while waiting for the gear to show up. if you want, keep on them and then when you start your cycle either keep using 'em or just taper off the PH.

the PH do have other methods of action other than JUST stimulating the AR. i've heard several people claim to make better gains in their cycles when using PH at the same time. personally i'd say screw the PH, but since you already have them...

 

[faller]

How much (mgs) PH are you using now? Personally, I would take time off, just to make recovery from the gear smoother. How long is anyone's guess. I would say 4 weeks. I really don't think it will matter that much anyway you do it, just because PH's get so little of the actual hormone into your system.

 

[Izzman]

Thanks all, I started at 300mg 1AD/500mg 4AD for the 1st week and bumped that up to 400mg1AD/750mg 4AD for my second week. I was originally planning to go at 600mg 1AD/1G 4AD for this 3rd week, but that was before this came up. So should I run the gear and continue to bump the dosage of the PH's or just run the gear and stop completely? Problem is that if I go off the PH now, I have no 60X0 for recovery till when I run the gear, so I fear may lose some of the gains Ive made. I also belive that if I stay on the PH, I may be able to gain some more and take of advantage of it before the test kicks in my system. Whats your take guys? Later.

 

[faller]

You could just keep bumping and consider it a 12-week cycle. Those are actually some pretty high PH doses, so at this point I would say go straight through. I had taken 6oxo before, and from what I read about it thought it was good stuff, but you might want to research a little extra on that. I just say that because I think it was Nelsen who said his test actually lowered on it. Anyone else?

 

[ripper2]

i would just stay at your current PH dose and just run it into your cycle. then do your Post Cycle Therapy

 

[Izzman]

6OXO has worked good for me on past PH cycles, would it be wise to stack the 60X0 and Nolva for PCT?

 

[ripper2]

6OXO has worked good for me on past PH cycles, would it be wise to stack the 60X0 and Nolva for PCT?

i dont' know what 60X0 is, but if you use it for PCT, then i dont' see how it could hurt anything if you stack it with the Nolva

 

[Izzman]

6OXO is an OTC Anti Estrogen made by ErgoPharm and it also helps restore natural test levels after coming off a PH cycle. So should I use the two in conjunction?

6OXO Here

 

[HighIntensity]

6OXO is an OTC Anti Estrogen made by ErgoPharm and it also helps restore natural test levels after coming off a PH cycle. So should I use the two in conjunction?

6OXO Here

lol

 

[ripper2]

6OXO is an OTC Anti Estrogen made by ErgoPharm and it also helps restore natural test levels after coming off a PH cycle. So should I use the two in conjunction?

6OXO Here

since you've already got it, why not...

 

[Izzman]

Thanks for the info bros, I guess Ill just play it safe and run the gear around 2-3 months from now to allow natural recovery between now and then from the PH's (I always recover quite well *knocks on wood* from a 4 week cycle on 6OXO alone). So that way my boys will be back to full size before I run the real deal cycle, and hopefully I can just rely on the Nolva/Arimidex for my 10 week cycle. HCG looks like it'll be tough to get my hands on, so Ill just play it safe. Thanks man.