ok.. its time to get massive!!!

[nutta]

im gonna start my second mass cycle. after a long time cutting in the summer, got down to 8%...went on holiday came back 10% (dammm alcohol!!) but shit, the hot weathers gone its time to bulk!!

this is the cycle im thinkin about. im 6ft, 175lbs, 10%bf. 20 yrs old
my goal? to be a head turnin, mass monster!
weeks
250mg sust 1-9
200mg deca 1-10
30mg Dbol 1-10
clen post cycle

what you guys think?

also a few q's for ya.
1)will omnadren give different results from proper sust. iv heard its inferior.

2)do you think 400mg deca intead of 200 will make much difference?

3)i wanna keep sides and fat gain to an absolute minimum.
will eatin shit load of CLEAN calories and keepin my sodium intake LOW plus plenty water be enuff u think?

thanks for your help bro's.

 

[Japanese machine]

i think you will do well on it but........

I will bet my balls though that you will be recommended to up deca to 400mg and test to 500mg every week.

***STOP dbol at week Four, by then sust will take over; keep liver healthy; save rest for AM dbol dosing during clomid therapy.

If you wanna keep sides to a MINIMUM run Liquidex at .5mg/ed to combat estrogen related sides; fat deposits being one of them.

As for Omna vs. Sust many people said Omna tends to aromitize easier ie. more bloat. Omna is generally cheaper; this may have something to do with it. But they both contain 4 diff. esters. I dont think one will produce better results than the other as long as you run a E-blocker ie. Dex.

Drink 2 gallons of water a day and get 10 hours of sleep a night. dont drink either

Good Luck Nutta.

 

[biganth01]

I would go for 500mg test,400mg Deca minimum,Dbol sounds right.I know prefer single ester tests over Sust,especially Prop.Dont get too caught up eating TOO clean,as long as the protien is taken care of,shovel it in,within reason of course,you will now wether you look like someone who is on a bulk cycle or someone who looks like a fat pig!Also throw in 1mg Arimidex eod.You might get a few different opinions on post cycle therapy,i like nolvadex and HCG,clomid gives me bad acne and makes me feel like a bitch! Good luck bro.

 

[Japanese machine]

I would go for 500mg test,400mg Deca minimum,Dbol sounds right.I know prefer single ester tests over Sust,especially Prop.Dont get too caught up eating TOO clean,as long as the protien is taken care of,shovel it in,within reason of course,you will now wether you look like someone who is on a bulk cycle or someone who looks like a fat pig!Also throw in 1mg Arimidex eod.You might get a few different opinions on post cycle therapy,i like nolvadex and HCG,clomid gives me bad acne and makes me feel like a bitch! Good luck bro.

You think his dbol dosing sounds "right"?

 

[SofaGeorge]

[i***STOP dbol at week Four, by then sust will take over; keep liver healthy; save rest for AM dbol dosing during clomid therapy.
[/B]

Everybody says that... almost like a repeated gospel... but I've never seen the truth in it.

I always stay on d-bol for a minimum of 7-8 weeks. I would go beyond 8 weeks... but I don't usual see any continued gains after that.

I've never seen any problems at all in almost 20 years of doing d-bol. (Also, this 3-4 weeks "max" mantra is new. Back in the 70s and 80s... a d-bol cycle was 8-10 weeks... period.)

I've known guys who have stayed on anadrol and d-bol for 6 months... and then had their livers test fine. I personally would consider 4 weeks on d-bol a waste.

 

[serge]

im gonna start my second mass cycle. after a long time cutting in the summer, got down to 8%...went on holiday came back 10% (dammm alcohol!!) but shit, the hot weathers gone its time to bulk!!

this is the cycle im thinkin about. im 6ft, 175lbs, 10%bf. 20 yrs old
my goal? to be a head turnin, mass monster!
weeks
250mg sust 1-9
200mg deca 1-10
30mg Dbol 1-10
clen post cycle

what you guys think?

also a few q's for ya.
1)will omnadren give different results from proper sust. iv heard its inferior.

2)do you think 400mg deca intead of 200 will make much difference?

3)i wanna keep sides and fat gain to an absolute minimum.
will eatin shit load of CLEAN calories and keepin my sodium intake LOW plus plenty water be enuff u think?

thanks for your help bro's.

those doses are too low, move deca up to 400mg/week, test to 500mg/week dbol is fine; add arimidex or femera into your cycle to fight estradiol

 

[nutta]

thanks for the advice guys,

just to double check will upping the doses 500mgtest 400mg deca give THAT MUCH of a difference??? im not massive at the moment just as good as a genetically gifted natural say. also im wantin to keep well away from those sides.
but if it will make a difference then thanks,
il follow that advice...
and love the gains mmmmmmmmmmmm

more opinions??

 

[serge]

thanks for the advice guys,

just to double check will upping the doses 500mgtest 400mg deca give THAT MUCH of a difference???

big difference, 400mg/deca/week is optimum to max the gains while minimzing sides, once you go past 400mg/week your sides start to get out of control

test at 500mg/week is a minimum for bulking