I knew someone would say that.sh4dowf4lcon said:good ol BUsh
MattTheSkywalker said:The President controls the economy like the Supreme Court controls the weather.
Testosterone boy said:Wait a minute.
I just perused the website: www.draftclark.com
It warned us that this would happen, it is apparently all creative accounting by the relatives of the Enron crooks.......the Bushbarians.
Clark could beat Bush. That is why they are unleashing their most formidable weapons (like Limbaugh....the ultimate suck up to the super rich) already.
I like this.
An honored general to deal with our most pressing problems. The aftermath of the death and descruction wrought by the Bushbarians in the Middle East. The shocking loss of business ethics by our corporate executives. I would hope a general would get tough with the crooks somehow.
Getting fired doesn't mean squat to me. Been there, done that.MattTheSkywalker said:
Clark's boss, General Shelton, a warrior general from Special Operations including Delta Force, not an academic superstar like Clark, fired General Clark.
I'd love to see Shelton run.
Testosterone boy said:Getting fired doesn't mean squat to me. Been there, done that.
Oddly, I got fired when I was the probably the best employee. I made the others look bad. You know the story.
Do you think we need more military credentials than Clark has? Maybe someone like Bush huh???![]()
yea....well you are a certified Bush guy with many posts to prove it so I will consider that when looking at your judgement of Clark.MattTheSkywalker said:
Or Clinton. Or any other numberof presidents who never wore the uniform. Military service has never been a pre-requisite for Presidential service. Should it be? maybe.
Getting fired is a statement proportional to the person firing you. If you're fired by a dweeb, then whofuckincares?!
If you're fired by a real leader, then you're not up to the task.
Shelton is one of the most war-experienced generals we've had this generation. if he fires a general, he's qualified to judge...
Testosterone boy said:Wait a minute.
I just perused the website: www.draftclark.com
It warned us that this would happen, it is apparently all creative accounting by the relatives of the Enron crooks.......the Bushbarians.
Clark could beat Bush. That is why they are unleashing their most formidable weapons (like Limbaugh....the ultimate suck up to the super rich) already.
I like this.
An honored general to deal with our most pressing problems. The aftermath of the death and descruction wrought by the Bushbarians in the Middle East. The shocking loss of business ethics by our corporate executives. I would hope a general would get tough with the crooks somehow.
Testosterone boy said:yea....well you are a certified Bush guy with many posts to prove it so I will consider that when looking at your judgement of Clark.
Getting fired by a "real leader" doesn't phase me. Saddam Hussein was a real leader. Same with OBL and Hitler. Should we bow our heads at their judgements?
No offense but quoting one personality clash is not very impressive.overhead said:Clark is an ass, Shelton said he was relieved of command due to "integrety issues". I have a feeling some of these issues will be released if clark manages to get close to running against Bush.
Testosterone boy said:
Bush disappeared (AWOL) during his Guard duty for, I think, several weeks or months. That is louder than having a senior say that he did not like someone.
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Clinton said that Powell's position is a product of Affirmative Action. Clinton outranked Shelton.MattTheSkywalker said:
If you were a totalitarian and Hitler fired you, I'd say he was qualified. If you were an international terrorist, and OBL fired you, likewise.
Shelton is clearly qulalified to relieve Clark. Rangers, Special Forces and Delta Force before becoming commander of all Special Operations.....
You're right - I do support the administration, but having read extensively about Colin Powell, I would say that he and Clark had similar military careers: more books than bullets. Yes, Powell has his purple heart, but he stepped on a booby trap to get it.
I'd prefer Powell because he is a NY city kid who did ROTC in college. Clark was #1 at West Point and a Rhodes Scholar - impressive, to be sure, but I'd rather have the guy who had nothing and made it all the way to the #1 position, (Powell) ironically, the same one held by General Shelton.
btw Shelton was a commander of the one thing the US did right in VietNam - special ops.
Testosterone boy said:Clinton said that Powell's position is a product of Affirmative Action. Clinton outranked Shelton.
It is all political after Colonel, I'm not sure rank means much beyond who they knew.
OKMattTheSkywalker said:
You missed the whole point about qualifacations huh? Bizarre considering you started that point.
As to Powell and Clinton, Powell was the one who asked Les Aspin (Sec of Def) for armor support in Somalia. Clinton told Aspin no, and Aspin told Powell no. Powell protested to no avail. Americans got killed due to being unprepared, and, as if to highlight the affair, dragged through the streets of Mogadishu. Clinton never liked that story....and Powell was a constant reminder. After Aspin died, there wasn't a fall guy for Clinton.
Clark is a very smart guy who would be suited for some kind of politcal-military liaison position. Or, he might make a good Congressman, where he'd have to really work with constituencies to get anything done.
Testosterone boy said:OK
Resume to resume, Clark trounces the hell out of Bush. The accomplishments of whom can almost all be attributed to his father and friends of his father.
OK pops.MattTheSkywalker said:
welcome to america, land of opportunity.
Testosterone boy said:OK pops.
Yea....if I were rich and Jewish, I would be a big donor and fan for sure.MattTheSkywalker said:
it's real clear that sperm is the #1 success factor for people.
Bush was handed this job.
Sometimes that's OK.
Testosterone boy said:
Resume to resume, Clark trounces the hell out of Bush. The accomplishments of whom can almost all be attributed to his father and friends of his father.
Testosterone boy said:
I am neither democrat nor republican.Frackal said:
does this mean youre going to be a republican again?
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