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October jobless rate drops!!!

The President controls the economy like the Supreme Court controls the weather.
 
Wait a minute.


I just perused the website: www.draftclark.com

It warned us that this would happen, it is apparently all creative accounting by the relatives of the Enron crooks.......the Bushbarians.



Clark could beat Bush. That is why they are unleashing their most formidable weapons (like Limbaugh....the ultimate suck up to the super rich) already.

I like this.

An honored general to deal with our most pressing problems. The aftermath of the death and descruction wrought by the Bushbarians in the Middle East. The shocking loss of business ethics by our corporate executives. I would hope a general would get tough with the crooks somehow.
 
Testosterone boy said:
Wait a minute.


I just perused the website: www.draftclark.com

It warned us that this would happen, it is apparently all creative accounting by the relatives of the Enron crooks.......the Bushbarians.

Clark could beat Bush. That is why they are unleashing their most formidable weapons (like Limbaugh....the ultimate suck up to the super rich) already.

I like this.

An honored general to deal with our most pressing problems. The aftermath of the death and descruction wrought by the Bushbarians in the Middle East. The shocking loss of business ethics by our corporate executives. I would hope a general would get tough with the crooks somehow.


Clark's boss, General Shelton, a warrior general from Special Operations including Delta Force, not an academic superstar like Clark, fired General Clark.

I'd love to see Shelton run.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:



Clark's boss, General Shelton, a warrior general from Special Operations including Delta Force, not an academic superstar like Clark, fired General Clark.

I'd love to see Shelton run.
Getting fired doesn't mean squat to me. Been there, done that.

Oddly, I got fired when I was the probably the best employee. I made the others look bad. You know the story.

Do you think we need more military credentials than Clark has? Maybe someone like Bush huh??? :confused:
 
Testosterone boy said:
Getting fired doesn't mean squat to me. Been there, done that.

Oddly, I got fired when I was the probably the best employee. I made the others look bad. You know the story.

Do you think we need more military credentials than Clark has? Maybe someone like Bush huh??? :confused:

Or Clinton. Or any other numberof presidents who never wore the uniform. Military service has never been a pre-requisite for Presidential service. Should it be? maybe.

Getting fired is a statement proportional to the person firing you. If you're fired by a dweeb, then whofuckincares?! :)

If you're fired by a real leader, then you're not up to the task.

Shelton is one of the most war-experienced generals we've had this generation. if he fires a general, he's qualified to judge...
 
Clark is an ass, Shelton said he was relieved of command due to "integrety issues". I have a feeling some of these issues will be released if clark manages to get close to running against Bush.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


Or Clinton. Or any other numberof presidents who never wore the uniform. Military service has never been a pre-requisite for Presidential service. Should it be? maybe.

Getting fired is a statement proportional to the person firing you. If you're fired by a dweeb, then whofuckincares?! :)

If you're fired by a real leader, then you're not up to the task.

Shelton is one of the most war-experienced generals we've had this generation. if he fires a general, he's qualified to judge...
yea....well you are a certified Bush guy with many posts to prove it so I will consider that when looking at your judgement of Clark.

Getting fired by a "real leader" doesn't phase me. Saddam Hussein was a real leader. Same with OBL and Hitler. Should we bow our heads at their judgements?
 
As for the prerequisite for military service....interesting question.


I don't think so. We have the boys in the Pentagon to make military decisions, I would like to see Washington quit overiding them.

A massive ego and unltimate power has never assured military judgement. Ask any Nam vet.
 
Testosterone boy said:
Wait a minute.


I just perused the website: www.draftclark.com

It warned us that this would happen, it is apparently all creative accounting by the relatives of the Enron crooks.......the Bushbarians.

Then this would be no different than the creative accounting during the Clinton administration concerning a "4 trillion dollar surplus"....I'll believe it when I see it. Or no different than the creative accounting that states that a program will cost x billion dollars and then really costs 10x billion dollars. Essentially it is normal run of government.

Clark could beat Bush. That is why they are unleashing their most formidable weapons (like Limbaugh....the ultimate suck up to the super rich) already.

I like this.

An honored general to deal with our most pressing problems. The aftermath of the death and descruction wrought by the Bushbarians in the Middle East. The shocking loss of business ethics by our corporate executives. I would hope a general would get tough with the crooks somehow.

Because someone could beat Bush does nothing to show if that person is the best person for the job or even is better than who he is beating. Clark, no matter if he wins, will always remain a fuck up, who wouldn't know Constitutional political philosophy if it ran up his asshole with a grenade. The idiot stated that the United States was "founded on the idea of progressive taxation". Nuff said.

As for your reviled corporate executives, what could a president do in these instances, that the executive and judicial system is not already doing?

And I am sure that since I attacked an anti-Bushite, I will be labeled a "Bush guy" by your myopic view.
 
Testosterone boy said:
yea....well you are a certified Bush guy with many posts to prove it so I will consider that when looking at your judgement of Clark.

Getting fired by a "real leader" doesn't phase me. Saddam Hussein was a real leader. Same with OBL and Hitler. Should we bow our heads at their judgements?

If you were a totalitarian and Hitler fired you, I'd say he was qualified. If you were an international terrorist, and OBL fired you, likewise.

Shelton is clearly qulalified to relieve Clark. Rangers, Special Forces and Delta Force before becoming commander of all Special Operations.....

You're right - I do support the administration, but having read extensively about Colin Powell, I would say that he and Clark had similar military careers: more books than bullets. Yes, Powell has his purple heart, but he stepped on a booby trap to get it.

I'd prefer Powell because he is a NY city kid who did ROTC in college. Clark was #1 at West Point and a Rhodes Scholar - impressive, to be sure, but I'd rather have the guy who had nothing and made it all the way to the #1 position, (Powell) ironically, the same one held by General Shelton.

btw Shelton was a commander of the one thing the US did right in VietNam - special ops.
 
overhead said:
Clark is an ass, Shelton said he was relieved of command due to "integrety issues". I have a feeling some of these issues will be released if clark manages to get close to running against Bush.
No offense but quoting one personality clash is not very impressive.

Clark may have felt Shelton to be stupid and incompetent himself.



Bush disappeared (AWOL) during his Guard duty for, I think, several weeks or months. That is louder than having a senior say that he did not like someone.


Clark did pretty well in the military. You guys drag up one clash as if he got a court marshall.
 
Testosterone boy said:


Bush disappeared (AWOL) during his Guard duty for, I think, several weeks or months. That is louder than having a senior say that he did not like someone.

.

It's either a prerequisite or it is not.

Bush's conduct during the war was pretty shitty. So was Clinton's.

but Americans gave both of them a free pass.....
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


If you were a totalitarian and Hitler fired you, I'd say he was qualified. If you were an international terrorist, and OBL fired you, likewise.

Shelton is clearly qulalified to relieve Clark. Rangers, Special Forces and Delta Force before becoming commander of all Special Operations.....

You're right - I do support the administration, but having read extensively about Colin Powell, I would say that he and Clark had similar military careers: more books than bullets. Yes, Powell has his purple heart, but he stepped on a booby trap to get it.

I'd prefer Powell because he is a NY city kid who did ROTC in college. Clark was #1 at West Point and a Rhodes Scholar - impressive, to be sure, but I'd rather have the guy who had nothing and made it all the way to the #1 position, (Powell) ironically, the same one held by General Shelton.

btw Shelton was a commander of the one thing the US did right in VietNam - special ops.
Clinton said that Powell's position is a product of Affirmative Action. Clinton outranked Shelton.

It is all political after Colonel, I'm not sure rank means much beyond who they knew.
 
Testosterone boy said:
Clinton said that Powell's position is a product of Affirmative Action. Clinton outranked Shelton.

It is all political after Colonel, I'm not sure rank means much beyond who they knew.

You missed the whole point about qualifacations huh? Bizarre considering you started that point. :)

As to Powell and Clinton, Powell was the one who asked Les Aspin (Sec of Def) for armor support in Somalia. Clinton told Aspin no, and Aspin told Powell no. Powell protested to no avail. Americans got killed due to being unprepared, and, as if to highlight the affair, dragged through the streets of Mogadishu. Clinton never liked that story....and Powell was a constant reminder. After Aspin died, there wasn't a fall guy for Clinton.

Clark is a very smart guy who would be suited for some kind of politcal-military liaison position. Or, he might make a good Congressman, where he'd have to really work with constituencies to get anything done.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


You missed the whole point about qualifacations huh? Bizarre considering you started that point. :)

As to Powell and Clinton, Powell was the one who asked Les Aspin (Sec of Def) for armor support in Somalia. Clinton told Aspin no, and Aspin told Powell no. Powell protested to no avail. Americans got killed due to being unprepared, and, as if to highlight the affair, dragged through the streets of Mogadishu. Clinton never liked that story....and Powell was a constant reminder. After Aspin died, there wasn't a fall guy for Clinton.

Clark is a very smart guy who would be suited for some kind of politcal-military liaison position. Or, he might make a good Congressman, where he'd have to really work with constituencies to get anything done.
OK

I still scratch my head and wonder what qualifications Bush holds for the Presidency. Something other than his sperm donor that is.


Resume to resume, Clark trounces the hell out of Bush. The accomplishments of whom can almost all be attributed to his father and friends of his father.
 
Testosterone boy said:
OK

Resume to resume, Clark trounces the hell out of Bush. The accomplishments of whom can almost all be attributed to his father and friends of his father.

welcome to america, land of opportunity.
 
Testosterone boy said:

it's real clear that sperm is the #1 success factor for people.

Bush was handed this job.

Sometimes that's OK.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


it's real clear that sperm is the #1 success factor for people.

Bush was handed this job.

Sometimes that's OK.
Yea....if I were rich and Jewish, I would be a big donor and fan for sure.

I can not figure what his team has done for other groups though and I do not worry about rich Jews. They do just fine.



Yea....I took a few liberties.
 
Testosterone boy said:

Resume to resume, Clark trounces the hell out of Bush. The accomplishments of whom can almost all be attributed to his father and friends of his father.

Please list these qualifications? Military experience is NOT a requirement for Presidency. A Rhodes Scholar means nothing, especially after I showed that his education did nothing to inform him of our country's history and philosophy.

His platform is his foundation, and he fails miserably as do all of the other eight intellectual midgets.

P.S. Bush fails too, in my perspective.
 
Re: Re: October jobless rate drops!!!

Frackal said:



does this mean youre going to be a republican again?
I am neither democrat nor republican.

It is possible for me to become a republican again but a report of increased jobs fulfills about .05% of the requirements for that.

Frankly, I believe both parties have failed miserably in serving anything other than special interests. They both seem to work for the Fortune 50, the republicans more blatantly so.

I can pretty well assure that I will not be campaigning for anything resembling politics as usual in 2004.

Right now I could see backing McCain as an independant or Clark as a democrat.


I am far more interested in my career than the candidates anyway.


The Republicans have proved time and again that they give lip service to popular ideology but are far more interested in simply making deep pockets much, much deeper.



Sorry but I can not get excited about helping the plight of the super rich. I have been screwed many times in my life and most of the screwers were wealthy or rich.
 
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