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Nutropin Depot

NJextreme

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Due can't do a platinum search so......How do you guys feel about the new HGH?
I have an oppertunity to get kits for $330 (54iu's) is this a fair price tag?
Also will it store for about 6 months, cause my guy says it is on ice?

And lastly how do you take it? Meaning I know since it is time released that you don't have to inject everyday like with regular hgh..But what if you want to get more than 1.8iu's a day would you take double the amount on seperate days? Or supplement with regular serostim. I think I read Fonz's aticle about him using it and he said he loved it...I think it was Fonz I could be wrong..
 
NJextreme said:
Due can't do a platinum search so......How do you guys feel about the new HGH?
I have an oppertunity to get kits for $330 (54iu's) is this a fair price tag?
Also will it store for about 6 months, cause my guy says it is on ice?

And lastly how do you take it? Meaning I know since it is time released that you don't have to inject everyday like with regular hgh..But what if you want to get more than 1.8iu's a day would you take double the amount on seperate days? Or supplement with regular serostim. I think I read Fonz's aticle about him using it and he said he loved it...I think it was Fonz I could be wrong..

Switch "Fonz" with "Ironmaster", and then go from there...... :)

Fonz
 
Just found this on an FDA web page.... Basically it says that Nutropin Depot offers less "growth" than everyday injections...


Released by FDA: 7/28/00. Posted by FDA: 8/2/00

Robert L. Garnick, Ph.D.
Vice President, Regulatory Affairs
Genentech, Inc.
1 DNA Way
South San Francisco, CA 94080-4990

RE: NDA # 21-075
Nutropin Depot [somatropin (rDNA origin) for injectable suspension]
MACMIS ID# 9082

Dear Dr. Garnick:

This letter refers to Genentech Incorporated’s (Genentech) May 16, 2000 submission to the Division of Drug Marketing, Advertising, and Communications (DDMAC) under cover of Form FDA 2253 of a Healthcare Professional In- Service Resource Kit (item number 7223300) for Nutropin Depot. DDMAC, in consultation with the Division of Metabolic and Endocrine Drug Products, has reviewed the Resource Kit and has determined that it is in violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and its implementing regulations. Specifically, we object for the following reasons:

Misleading Claims

Genentech presents the claim “Nutropin Depot represents a significant advance in terms of convenience over other currently available growth hormone replacement therapies.” This claim is misleading because it implies comparable efficacy to daily growth hormone therapies along with the increased convenience of a once or twice monthly regimen. This implication is misleading because it does not convey the material information provided in the approved product labeling (Pl) that growth rates for the long-acting formulation may not be comparable to those achieved with the daily formulation. Historical studies showed growth rates achieved on daily therapy are higher for treatment-naive patients. Also, according to the Pl, patients previously treated with daily growth hormone who were switched to Nutropin Depot experienced a decrease in growth rate. This decrease was of a higher magnitude than could be accounted for by the normal decrease experienced by patients who remain on a daily regimen.

The claim that Nutropin Depot is “the first long-acting dosage form of somatropin” is misleading because it implies a greater usefulness than has been demonstrated by substantial evidence. Nutropin Depot is only indicated for the long-term treatment of growth failure due to a lack of adequate endogenous GH secretion. Because there are other forms of somatropin that are approved for additional indications, this claim misleadingly implies that Nutropin Depot can be used in place of any other somatropin for any other indication.

Lack of Fair Balance

The Resource Kit contains effectiveness claims that are not fairly balanced with information regarding contraindications, warnings, precautions, and adverse reactions. Risk information should appear with a prominence and readability reasonably comparable to the presentation of information relating to the effectiveness of Nutropin Depot. For example, the 30-page handbook for caregivers and patients presents numerous efficacy claims for Nutropin Depot therapy. Risk information is only presented on 3 pages of the booklet and the information is inadequate to fully convey the risks of Nutropin Depot therapy. No information is presented regarding contraindications and warnings. Furthermore, your presentation of information regarding injection-site reactions minimizes the frequency and magnitude of their occurrence.

Requested Action

Genentech should immediately cease dissemination of this violative material and any other promotional materials with the same or similar claims or representations. You should respond to this letter by August 11, 2000. We request that you respond, in writing, with your intent to comply with the above. Your response should also include a list of all identified violative material and the proposed method and date for discontinuing their use.

Genentech should direct the correspondence to the undersigned by facsimile at (301) 594-6771, or at the Food and Drug Administration, Division of Drug Marketing, Advertising, and Communications, HFD-42, Rm. 17B-20, 5600 Fishers Lane, Rockville, MD 20857.

DDMAC reminds you that only written communications are considered official. In all future correspondence regarding this matter, please refer to MACMIS #9082 and the NDA number.

Sincerely,

Margaret M. Kober, R.Ph.
Regulatory Review Officer
Division of Drug Marketing,
Advertising and Communications
 
Here we go again. Your info is 3 yrs old, daily injections are better for children with stunted growth, the tissue growth they are talking about is skeletal tissue growth. Short acting agents can't maintain your IGF-1 levels like the depot. Get a platinum membership and do a search, this topic was covered my me , iron master and others. Your concerns has been addressed months ago.

Pediatric data can't be applied to adult usgage. Two different ball games.
 
Hopefully, I'll update this with new info.

Its going to be interesting to see the effects of the Depot on a guy who is a 1st time user of GH(me).

Fonz
 
Yo mister Miracle...you gonna spit out the loot for my platinum member ship??

Then sit your ass down...If you would like to add you 2 cents then do so but don't speak so loud like this is the most common info on the board, Relax and don't come at me like that bro.
 
Fonz...I will let you know also how my first time use with GH goes as I am also going to use Nutropin Depot of which I bought 10 kits.
 
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