Nsaids

[JKurz1]

Man did I read a terrifying artice in MM on NSAIDS and how it can reduce muscle growth by 50%. I sometimes take advil and tylenol for headaches and muscle aches but now only in emergencies. I have also taken vicodine in the past for a blown disk but that will cease. Wha is the dossage that wil do damage? I know advil is one, but is vicodine concidered a NSAID? All Ibruprofen? Any of them safe?

 

[MTS]

pain good, NSAID bad


Tylenol and vicodine are not NSAIDs, but tylenol is bad for the liver and vicodine well that's addictive plus it has tylenol in it.

NSAIDs:
Aspirin (Anacin, Ascriptin, Bayer, Bufferin, Ecotrin, Excedrin)
Choline and magnesium salicylates (CMT, Tricosal, Trilisate)
Choline salicylate (Arthropan)
Celecoxib (Celebrex)
Diclofenac potassium (Cataflam)
Diclofenac sodium (Voltaren, Voltaren XR)
Diclofenac sodium with misoprostol (Arthrotec)
Diflunisal (Dolobid)
Etodolac (Lodine, Lodine XL)
Fenoprofen calcium (Nalfon)
Flurbiprofen (Ansaid)
Ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin, Motrin IB, Nuprin)
Indomethacin (Indocin, Indocin SR)
Ketoprofen (Actron, Orudis, Orudis KT, Oruvail)
Magnesium salicylate (Arthritab, Bayer Select, Doan's Pills, Magan, Mobidin, Mobogesic)
Meclofenamate sodium (Meclomen)
Mefenamic acid (Ponstel)
Meloxicam (Mobic)
Nabumetone (Relafen)
Naproxen (Naprosyn, Naprelan*)
Naproxen sodium (Aleve, Anaprox)
Oxaprozin (Daypro)
Piroxicam (Feldene)
Rofecoxib (Vioxx)
Salsalate (Amigesic, Anaflex 750, Disalcid, Marthritic, Mono-Gesic, Salflex, Salsitab)
Sodium salicylate (various generics)
Sulindac (Clinoril)
Tolmetin sodium (Tolectin)
Valdecoxib (Bextra)

 

[silverbackn]

This isn't by any means a new finding. They inhibit the cylooxygenase enzyme (COX) which is part of the bodies natural inflammation and healing cycle. It will basically slow adaptation (in our case of concern, growth). NSAIDS also inhibit protein synthesis. I never take pain killers, I would rather know when to back off then push through and get seriously injured. We hurt for a reason.

 

[Vascular Freak]

Man did I read a terrifying artice in MM on NSAIDS and how it can reduce muscle growth by 50%. I sometimes take advil and tylenol for headaches and muscle aches but now only in emergencies. I have also taken vicodine in the past for a blown disk but that will cease. Wha is the dossage that wil do damage? I know advil is one, but is vicodine concidered a NSAID? All Ibruprofen? Any of them safe?

NSAID's will DEFINETLY reduce muscle growth. Three days ago I had very bad injection selling from BD test E shots in both quads and on one of my glutes. Anyway I went to the gym and did tris and bis, after my workout I took 2 advil (400mg), and then another 200mg later in the day. It is three days later and my arms are so f*ckin sore which is very unusual for me when on cycle.

The other thing that I noticed was that after about an hour of taking advil, I completetly lost the pumped feeling and all vascularity "flattened" out.

I will not touch that shit again unless I severely need it, especially before or after training.

 

[mikefear]

2400mg/day was what the study was done with..that stuned skeletal muscle growth. Acetiminophen did the same (tylenol)

 

[OMEGA]

Advil is great but for me even at low dose it need "seem" to hinder gains

 

[JKurz1]

2400mg/day was what the study was done with..that stuned skeletal muscle growth. Acetiminophen did the same (tylenol)

geezus!!!! i take 800, maybe

 

[mikefear]

it's just 4 advils.. 3 times a day. not that uncommon.