Novaldex post cycle...

[Muscles&Tats]

I need some quick advice as far as post cycle therapy.Ive decided to use novaldex this time around for post cycle.Any of you bros that have done this successfully,whats your recommended dosages?Thanks in advance for all replies.....

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Last cycle I went off with:

Week 1:
40-40-30-30-20-20-20

Week 2 & 3:
10 ed

 

[Texas Ranger]

M&T, the majority of the guys on board endorse Clomid. Some run Clomid and Nolvadex, but not Nolva alone. Most Vets say Clomid just flat out works better.

 

[thate]

Nolva alone brings me back. Try this:

Week 1
40mg ed

Weeks 2-3
20mg ed

 

[THeMaCHinE]

M&T, the majority of the guys on board endorse Clomid. Some run Clomid and Nolvadex, but not Nolva alone. Most Vets say Clomid just flat out works better.

Wish I'd seen this earlier. Clomid does not 'flat out work better.'

Clomid and nolva are almost identical structurally -- nolva actually edges out clomid in some ways in terms of post-cycle performance.

People use clomid post-cycle because that's what's always been done (it comes down to how the drugs were orginally marketed for different uses although they act about the same way in the body -- and the way that this marketing was interpreted by the bodybuilding public).

Using nolva post-cycle is becoming more popular and will continue to grow in practice.

As an aside, Llewellyn ascribes the following equation to nolva: 20 mg nolva = 150 mg clomid; this is how I determined my post-cycle dosage.

 

[Texas Ranger]

I seen the same Llewellyn article months ago. His data was based on an out dated study from the 1980's, I believe. He also advocates the use of HCG and Nolvadex, not Nolvadex alone. I really don't have the technical expertise to say which is better. So, if Nolvadex works for, then by all means continue. I even thought about it myself....

 

[Metal Gear]

I'm using 40mg ed but I'm trying to get rid of some gyno also. You could get by with 20mg

 

[Texas Ranger]

MG, I think he meant using Nolvadex alone for Post Cycle Recovery, instead of Clomid.

 

[Metal Gear]

Ohhh...I've never heard that one before...that's a new one. But I guess if you are suppressing estrogen, then it acutally should work, but I like a little water in there when I'm growing, don't you?

 

[trial0r]

Wish I'd seen this earlier. Clomid does not 'flat out work better.'

Clomid and nolva are almost identical structurally -- nolva actually edges out clomid in some ways in terms of post-cycle performance.

People use clomid post-cycle because that's what's always been done (it comes down to how the drugs were orginally marketed for different uses although they act about the same way in the body -- and the way that this marketing was interpreted by the bodybuilding public).

Using nolva post-cycle is becoming more popular and will continue to grow in practice.

As an aside, Llewellyn ascribes the following equation to nolva: 20 mg nolva = 150 mg clomid; this is how I determined my post-cycle dosage.

well said bro

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I seen the same Llewellyn article months ago. His data was based on an out dated study from the 1980's, I believe. He also advocates the use of HCG and Nolvadex, not Nolvadex alone. I really don't have the technical expertise to say which is better. So, if Nolvadex works for, then by all means continue. I even thought about it myself....

There's a lot more out there to support the use of nolva than Llewellyn's article -- I was referencing it more for the dosage equation (which seemed to work ok with me); also, the study was old, but not outdated. As far as HCG, he advocates the use of it whether you use nolva or clomid. And he doesn't like either compound by itself.

I think we will see more people using nolva post cycle in years to come.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Ohhh...I've never heard that one before...that's a new one. But I guess if you are suppressing estrogen, then it acutally should work, but I like a little water in there when I'm growing, don't you?

If you're using parallel dosages of nolva vs. clomid (i.e. ~40 mg nolva vs. ~300 mg clomid) water shouldn't vary much between the two. (Some people debate whether any estrogen is good for a growing environment, but you obviously have a handle on how your body responds.) Also, in my view, post-cycle really isn't a growing environment, it's a mass-retention environment.