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KillJoy

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This stuff is called NO2 (muscle building hemodilator)
or Arginine Alpha-ketoglutarate
anyway.......this stuff is made by this guy Ed byrd, co-fonder of EAS. Has any body taken this stuff yet? I tried to look it up but all I get is ORNITHINE alpha-ketoglutarate or just L-arginine. The only other product that had the stuff was twin labs........mass fuel
and it only had .58mg. The NO2 has 1500mg per pill.
somebody let me know....thanks

KJ
p.s......the web site is www.getno2.com
 
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If it works then it sounds phuking cool as hell.

However, where does the extra blood come from to create the "perpetual pump"??? Is the pump locallized to certain muscles that have been recently used? I've never heard of a full-body pump.
 
Bunk

Never seen it, but Ed Byrd was the original co-founder of EAS, with Anthony... this NO2, never heard of, but Alpha-Keto is way outdated, unless he's got new, proven clinical data to support it. Sounds like a case of another scientist, assisted by Bill, that is trying like hell to make in this vast world of supplement-sales!!

Good luck to him.
 
plornive said:
....the "perpetual pump"??? Is ....
you meant Perpetual Pump! Have you ever seen so many trademarked terms in one ad???

• Hemodilation™
• Perpetual Pump™
• Muscle Fiber Twitch Accelerators™
• Endurance Index™ (EI)
• Full-Body Muscle Recovery™
• Nutraceutical Expressor™
• Dilation Differential™
• Gene Expression
• pHyser3™
 
I know alpha-keto is old news ,but arginine is what gets me.
I've seen (okg) and EAS made a product like it. But it was glutamine-alpha keto or some thing like that. just never seen a product with Arginine alpha-keto....... in big amounts anyway. I went ahead a bought it any way.........80 dollars! If it don't work....oh well, Got to spend that tax money somewhere. life of a supplement junkie.........

KJ
 
Ok.....If it is garbage, tell me why. I have people calling 1-AD crap and I know thats BS. I'm not trying to be a smart ass...............just want the facts. Like have you tried it.....or anything that has arginine alpha-ketoglutarate in it.
thanks

KJ
 
KillJoy said:
Ok.....If it is garbage, tell me why. I have people calling 1-AD crap and I know thats BS. I'm not trying to be a smart ass...............just want the facts. Like have you tried it.....or anything that has arginine alpha-ketoglutarate in it.
thanks

KJ

Well I haven't tried it but I know sh*t when I see. Let's see:

1. The web site does not list the product ingredients
2. the consistent use of quotes to say something without really saying it "dilation differnential" WTF
3. Not one scientific reference - plenty of scientific mumbo jumbo

AKG works as anticatabolic in high dosages (in the grams range) even that has not been substantiated in resistance trained athletes.

Arginine isn't bad either, although to have any effect you need grams.

So let's see at 500mg a cap, I wonder how many servings of anhting you're getting :rolleyes:

Spend your money on something else
 
NO2

I have the direct number for Ed. I'm going to call him when I get a chance and let him defend all the hype claims. After reading all the hype, anyone who has basic knowledge of physiology and endocrinology should know a "all day pump is not possible". Blood can not be shunted from organs all day to supply muscles with extra blood. Also if all your blood vessels dilated, your blood pressure would drop. I hope he will give me an answer.

In the mean time, L-Argenine is great for pumps if taken preworkout. Try Effergin by Scitec and Trac creatine by MHP. Both give good pumps.
 
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