i have been told THAT YOU DONT NEED that on var/but everybody is different.i would get some AIFM to keep on hand.some more experienced bros will chime in.Anthony Starks said:
Anthony Starks said:
their you have it!!!Mr.X said:You still need to do PCT, you can just shorten the time to 3 weeks.
Cauliflower Ear said:
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bruce410 said:
Bro you don't need PCT with var only it does not effect your bodies natural hormone production. I have researched this drug more than any other. Hours and hours. It's one of the reasons it is the safest AAS out there. It works off creatine synthesis in the muscles mostly. If at a HIGH dose I would say maybe run PCT but in your case if the PCT is screwing with you which it is. Another post above suggested that gyno may be being caused by the Nolva but I think it depends on the dose. If you were taking a really high dose of nolva and sensitiev it could screw with your progesterone = gyno. I would run the Var at a safe level like 40 50mg /day maybe a bit more if your a big dude and not run the PCT if you do stay away from nolva maybe run Clomid at a low dose. Honestly I would just skip it. With Var you will retain most of your gains. You wont gain as much as other AAS either but the gains are quality. I am no expert and X and the other guys really know there shit. All I know is that I have researched the HELL out of var and it is awesom. My doc is prescribing for me now and I have talked to 3 endo's about it too. If they dont know their shit no-one does. Just work your ass off when you come off and bump your creatine and protein intake after the cycle. I would also taper down to get off it instead of just stopping all at once. Lower the dose the last 2 or 3 weeks as you end the cycle you'll come off smoother. If you research enough you'll see what I am saying bro. i have read where people use Var as PCTAnthony Starks said:
. I don't know if I agree with that but it makes some sense due to what I have read. Good luck bud.
MILLENNIUM said:Bro you don't need PCT with var only it does not effect your bodies natural hormone production. I have researched this drug more than any other. Hours and hours. It's one of the reasons it is the safest AAS out there. It works off creatine synthesis in the muscles mostly. If at a HIGH dose I would say maybe run PCT but in your case if the PCT is screwing with you which it is. Another post above suggested that gyno may be being caused by the Nolva but I think it depends on the dose. If you were taking a really high dose of nolva and sensitiev it could screw with your progesterone = gyno. I would run the Var at a safe level like 40 50mg /day maybe a bit more if your a big dude and not run the PCT if you do stay away from nolva maybe run Clomid at a low dose. Honestly I would just skip it. With Var you will retain most of your gains. You wont gain as much as other AAS either but the gains are quality. I am no expert and X and the other guys really know there shit. All I know is that I have researched the HELL out of var and it is awesom. My doc is prescribing for me now and I have talked to 3 endo's about it too. If they dont know their shit no-one does. Just work your ass off when you come off and bump your creatine and protein intake after the cycle. I would also taper down to get off it instead of just stopping all at once. Lower the dose the last 2 or 3 weeks as you end the cycle you'll come off smoother. If you research enough you'll see what I am saying bro. i have read where people use Var as PCT
bruce410 said:
You are making the right decision here bro. Var does not screw with you natural hormone production hardly at all. Bruce knows his shit but I don't agree here. I ran a Var only cycle and got my blood tested 3 x Once before once during and once right after. My test levels didn't move much at all. Actually nothing moved all that much. I came off the cycle and kept almost all I gained too. anti e's are obviously screwing with you. Run Var no PCT some guys say run it just cause but in your case NO WAY.Anthony Starks said:
Both cholesterol and liver were up a bit but the doc said they weren't real bad. Higher in comparison to normal but he said he wanst worried yet and let me continue on at the same dose. I definitely think T-Bol is wayyyyy harder on you so I am not suprised especially if he was taking a high dose. My doc said he didnt think anything would really get out of hand at all if I stayed at a max dose of like 1mg per lb of bodyweight per week. Which for me is like 46mg e/d. He kept telling me 20mg max and I was honest with him and told him I was taking more, and I didn't feel 20mg e/d would benefit me much so then he told me that lol. I know stuff affects everyone a little diff depending on bodyweight, diet , etc and I have no prob with running PCT just in case you know I mean especially if you're not goin to the doc for bloodwork, but in this guys case it sounds like PCT really screwed him. I will try and find the actual tests and post the #'s. This was months ago so I will have to dig. Lots of doc paperwwork around I am at a doc like every other day it feels likebruce410 said:
shit sucks....lol
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