Next (mild) cycle - which is better?

[twinturboman]

It's been a while but my first cycle was dbol 35mg everyday for 4 weeks and sus 250 x2 a week for 8 weeks - had some liquidex and finished off with the clomid .....that was a nice opener went from 190 to 216 (5 10") only catch was had acne on my shoulders and back for the next 6 months but was a great size to be for a first timer. Oh yea EVERYone at my work place new I was on something because I was just plain swollen like a good year blimp it wasn't cool at work but would like to do it this round with less swoll and more of the lean muscle.

Any whoo - I am 30 now and 184lbs and been going for the leaner cut look with some great definition. I been pretty much after losing the stomach fat and wonderful signs of the the love handles that seem to be a f*cking bitch to get rid of. So took Hydroxycut Hardcore and endded up with the red shits so using to use more firepower

Ok - I use hair but recently started taking proscar becasue worried that my shedding of hair needs to slow down and not married yet so need to hold on to what I can. That being said ...the good part.

Here is 1 of 2 cycles I have planned what are ya'lls 2cents to get lean and rip

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex Every Day
Week 1 to 16: 0.25 arimidex Every Other Day
Week 1 to 8: 3000-5000ius of HCG every 4th week
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop Every Day
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of winny Every Day
Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron Every Day
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid Every Day
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day


2 of 2
Anavar 40mg a day for 10 weeks


So would I benefit from the 1st or 2nd cycle if I wanted to get lean and cut?

 

[immortalis]

It's been a while but my first cycle was dbol 35mg everyday for 4 weeks and sus 250 x2 a week for 8 weeks - had some liquidex and finished off with the clomid .....that was a nice opener went from 190 to 216 (5 10") only catch was had acne on my shoulders and back for the next 6 months but was a great size to be for a first timer. Oh yea EVERYone at my work place new I was on something because I was just plain swollen like a good year blimp it wasn't cool at work but would like to do it this round with less swoll and more of the lean muscle.

Any whoo - I am 30 now and 184lbs and been going for the leaner cut look with some great definition. I been pretty much after losing the stomach fat and wonderful signs of the the love handles that seem to be a f*cking bitch to get rid of. So took Hydroxycut Hardcore and endded up with the red shits so using to use more firepower

Ok - I use hair but recently started taking proscar becasue worried that my shedding of hair needs to slow down and not married yet so need to hold on to what I can. That being said ...the good part.

Here is 1 of 2 cycles I have planned what are ya'lls 2cents to get lean and rip

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex Every Day
Week 1 to 16: 0.25 arimidex Every Other Day
Week 1 to 8: 3000-5000ius of HCG every 4th week
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop Every Day
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of winny Every Day
Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron Every Day
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid Every Day
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day


2 of 2
Anavar 40mg a day for 10 weeks


So would I benefit from the 1st or 2nd cycle if I wanted to get lean and cut?

Yeah, the bloat from Dbol will make you look like a stay-puft marshmellow man.

Ive honestly never really heard of people doing this:
Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex Every Day
Week 1 to 16: 0.25 arimidex Every Other Day
Week 1 to 8: 3000-5000ius of HCG every 4th week

unless youre really really prone to gyno, i dont see how this would be neccessary.

Other than that, i dont have much to comment on because I havent run most of those compounds. I stick to test-based cycles with maybe some Deca thrown in the blender.

Bumping for further feedback from a more experienced vet for ya.

 

[thezan]

Your first cycle is a little out of wack. You are running prop 1-8, and then starting what it looks like your pct on week 13??? How prone to gyno are you? when did u see it come up in your first cycle?? I would run something like

Prop 1-8 50 mg or 75 mg a day
winny 1-8 50mg a day
arimidex 1-8 .5mg every other day--wont be much bloat if any
have nolva on hand if gyno appears

then following prop start nolva and clomid (do not wait 2 week for pct, prop is a short ester).

I have never usec hCG b4 so cant help you out with that,
but this cyc would be much simplier

 

[twinturboman]

Thanks - I will take you advice. I my first cycle I never had any gyno so think I have over kill going to prevent it this round. I was going to bump up the prop up to 100mg EOD keep winny the same at 50mg ED. But you think I should start clomid sooner?

 

[black sheep]

1-10 Primo 600mg/week
1-10 Var 40mg ED