newbies first cycle

[Mr.Muscle]

Been working out for a few years now. I'm ready to do my first cycle. Theres alot of opinions out there on what to start with. I was just looking for some expert advice. I've heard a few but still not sure. The one I liked most was 30-50mg of winny (tabs) a day for 8-10 weeks followed by nolva. The reason I liked this most is I'm not real fond of needles. Also I guess yo might need to know a little bit to give advice. Age 34, Weight 215lb, height 6', bodyfat about 15%,. My goal is to get rid of BF and get bigger and harder. I dont want to get freakishly huge, just want to look and feel great. I'm not totally against needles and will probably use in the future. Just wanted to start out slow with first cycle and see how it does. I've came along way without roids, but it took along time. When I first starting working out I weighed about 140lb max bench was 95lb. Now max bench is 225lb. Like I said big improvement but, it took about 9 years. I got discouraged many times and quit because I workout for months with minimal gain. Use to see guys come in the gym smaller than I was and within six months be twice as big. Were these guys on roids? Oh Yeah! You better beleive it. I've done alot of research and found alot of sources. Just need advice. Thanks To All, Mr.muscle

 

[trainhrder]

Mr. Muscle

I beleive that the base of any cycle and most importantly your first should be some sort of test. To see how your body reacts to AAS.

 

[young_gunz]

hey man you might want to reserch some more, theres alot of knowledge out there to be learned before starting a cycle. Ive been researching for months now and i still dont think im ready for my first cycle!!! Be patient and learn, you still got time for the gear.O and if your serious everyones gonna tell you to get used to the needle!!
Good luck!
and your to big for that small amount of winstrol oral not stacked

 

[trainhrder]

Maybe you should consider something like this

500 mg of test 2 times a week for 10 weeks with a proper diet and workout you should see the results you are looking for. Have you considered any PCT?

 

[Kick-Ass Stack]

I'm with the guys above. If you're going to start cycling, you're going to get stuck eventually.

I'm a newbie as well and everything I've read on here convinced me to use test only for my first cycle. Here's what I did:

1st Cycle

200mg/wk of Test Cyp.

I just started my 2nd cycle which is

500mg Test-E/wk
400mg EQ/wk

I'm not too wild about winstrol myself. I'm kinda scared of it from what I've read honestly. That's just my 2 cents.

Anyhow I would recommend you listen to alot of the experienced folks around here. Most people know what they're talking about.

 

[cranny]

Wow! winstrol for 8-10 wks. I don't think that's a good idea bro. Do a little more research grasshopper. There's tons of usefull info. here. Don't forget about PCT as well. And welcome to EF bro.

 

[Apexx]

welcome to the board bro, I'll send u some green for actually reading the newbie sticky on how to post for cycle advise.

someone else has already said it, but 250 - 500 mg's of test for 10 - 12 weeks followed by pct is the best 1st cycle IMO. Keep your diet in check as that's going to be even more important than steroids in achieving your goal.

You don't want to take winny for that long, especially by itself for two reasons. 1st, taking an oral causes a lot of stress on your liver. I don't go over 6 weeks with any oral. 2nd, winny will definitely dry your joints out. Staying on for that long with make you feel like an 80 yr old man.

Been working out for a few years now. I'm ready to do my first cycle. Theres alot of opinions out there on what to start with. I was just looking for some expert advice. I've heard a few but still not sure. The one I liked most was 30-50mg of winny (tabs) a day for 8-10 weeks followed by nolva. The reason I liked this most is I'm not real fond of needles. Also I guess yo might need to know a little bit to give advice. Age 34, Weight 215lb, height 6', bodyfat about 15%,. My goal is to get rid of BF and get bigger and harder. I dont want to get freakishly huge, just want to look and feel great. I'm not totally against needles and will probably use in the future. Just wanted to start out slow with first cycle and see how it does. I've came along way without roids, but it took along time. When I first starting working out I weighed about 140lb max bench was 95lb. Now max bench is 225lb. Like I said big improvement but, it took about 9 years. I got discouraged many times and quit because I workout for months with minimal gain. Use to see guys come in the gym smaller than I was and within six months be twice as big. Were these guys on roids? Oh Yeah! You better beleive it. I've done alot of research and found alot of sources. Just need advice. Thanks To All, Mr.muscle

 

[Mr.Muscle]

Hey RJ
How did your first cycle go what kind of gains did you get with that? What about PCT? Thanks, Mr.M

 

[Mr.Muscle]

Thanks to all. Sounds like everybody pretty much agrees on first cycle. What is the best PCT to use with Test & EQ. Thanks again to all. Mr.M

 

[Apexx]

why test AND eq? stick with just one compound for the first cycle. The key is to see how u learn from every cycle. If you introduce 2 compounds at a time, you won't know where the sides, gains are coming from.

K.I.S.S. = keep it simple stupid.

check out the pct forum, there's TONS of great info on there.

Thanks to all. Sounds like everybody pretty much agrees on first cycle. What is the best PCT to use with Test & EQ. Thanks again to all. Mr.M

 

[Mr.Muscle]

why test AND eq? stick with just one compound for the first cycle. The key is to see how u learn from every cycle. If you introduce 2 compounds at a time, you won't know where the sides, gains are coming from.

K.I.S.S. = keep it simple stupid.

check out the pct forum, there's TONS of great info on there.

Thanks AP. So what about 250-500 mg Test C Per week followed by nolva

 

[Mr.Muscle]

Nolvadex just seems like the prefered choice and what about "front load?"

 

[jmt24]

you dont need to frontload on your first cycle. stick to the test. 250-500mg of cyp sounds good to me. i would lean toward 400-500mg esp bc your not stacking.

 

[slat1]

I would stick to 250mgs of test a week for ten weeks.

 

[Harder N Leaner]

you dont need to frontload on your first cycle. stick to the test. 250-500mg of cyp sounds good to me. i would lean toward 400-500mg esp bc your not stacking.

I did 250mg of test only my first cycle with great results. no need to do 500mgs on first cycle IMO. You may want some clomid for pct.

 

[Lupercal CATS]

I did 250mg of test only my first cycle with great results. no need to do 500mgs on first cycle IMO. You may want some clomid for pct.

I disagree. I did 500mg and ran into no problems, except that none of my clothes fit.

 

[Harder N Leaner]

I disagree. I did 500mg and ran into no problems, except that none of my clothes fit.

He might not want to become a MEAT HEAD rite away....