Newbie needs cycle check (karma inside)

[Infusion]

Ok I've been planning out my first cycle for some time now, and I've decided to go with Prop/Eq/Winny.

I'm not looking for alot of weight gain, I'm just looking to keep about possibly 15lbs of lean mass and get really hard at the same time.

This is how I'm going to running it:
Weeks 1-10 Prop 100mgs EOD
Weeks 1-10 Eq 100mgs EOD (mixed with the prop)
Weeks 7-12 Winny 50mgs ED

Then Clomid 300/Day 1 100/10 days 50/10 days

Also wil be using ala at a gram ED, and milk thistle at the same dosage, also glucosamine to help with joints.

I'm running the prop/eq on Sun/Tues/Thurs/Sat, it's ok to go back to back on the weekends right? I'm doing this so i can get 400mgs a week every week.

How does this cycle look to you guys?
Anything I should change?
Is it too much for a beginner?
Plus I start the clomid 3 days after last injection or 5? I was reading some post that said 5.
By the way my stats are:
5'9"
160-165lbs (hence the reason for the cycle)
Bodyfat 10%
Neck 15.5"
Chest 40"
Waist 30"
Arms 15"
Legs 23"

Best lift was deadlifts 330lbs for 3 reps.

Thanks for all the help, sorry it was long.

 

[liquidmuscle]

you have the same goals as i do i enjoy less muscle with greater gainskepping abilties rather getting frickin blaotface and skyrocketing up 30lbs and then keeping only 5, the only thing i would change is i would do the prop at 50mgs ed i beleive there would be a higher constant level of test this way instead of haveing the rollercoaster effect, as far as weeekend back 2 back?????? just do prop ed as well as winny and do the eq split 2 doses on monday and thursdays

 

[argent]

Keep injecting on a constant schedule. Don't take the weekends OFF? If this is your first cycle, you realize that this is a shit load of injections for a person whose never injected before.

 

[guards]

I really don't like that cycle. You don't need that many injections to obtain the goals that you want.

If it was me, I would substitute the prop for cypionate or enanthate and run it with liquidex.


Your cycle would than look like this:

test 400mg/10 weeks
EQ 400mg/week 10 weeks
winny weeks 8-12 50 mg/ed

Do 2 injections a week....one on sunday and the other on wednesday. Works for me.

hope this helped and good luck growing.

 

[wartime100]

Definately up the eq dosage and take it twice a week. Everything else looks good.

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

It is quite a bit of gear for a beginner, but it looks well thought out, and you've got a good plan. Injecting the prop @ 50mg ED with the winny would be better, but EOD is ok. The reason your mixing the prop w/ the EQ is so it won't sting huh? Try it w/o the EQ first and see, if it doens't sting, try ED and shoot the EQ 2x's a week @ 200mg with a 400mg frontload and drop the EQ at week 9, so you have three weeks for the EQ to clear so it won't interfere with your clomid therapy. If you have to mix the two (EQ and prop) go ahead, but shoot them EOD not 4x's a week. It would still be good to frontload the EQ though and drop it at week 9. I would run the prop till week 12 with the winny if you have enough. Oh yeah and what about anti-e's? What are you using, you might not have problems, but you should still use one, especially if you're looking to get hard. Armidex @ .5mg ED or EOD should be good.

 

[Infusion]

I never said that I was taking weekends off, I was saying that i was going to inject on Saturday and Sundays.

I'll try the injecting everyday method but I don't think i'll be able to do that, who knows we'll see.
And I have injected before, B12.

I'm not too worried about the pain, no pain no gain, right?
Plus I'm using Spectro gear, and from the people I have talked to they have said that it's painless.

I was going to do the same cycle but with Enanthate, but right now I'm unable to get my hands on any Enanthate, plus I've been told that there is less water retention with the prop.

WARTIME100
Up the EQ dosage? It's 400mgs a week, that's not enough?

DR. Robert Banner
Instead of dropping the eq at week 9 can't I just run the winny a week longer and keep the Eq till week 10? And I've got anti-e's.
And I was also thinking of running the prop until the end of winny, I think I'll do it, I've got plenty of gear. Double the karma for you.

Thanks guys.

 

[serge]

Ok I've been planning out my first cycle for some time now, and I've decided to go with Prop/Eq/Winny.

I'm not looking for alot of weight gain, I'm just looking to keep about possibly 15lbs of lean mass and get really hard at the same time.

This is how I'm going to running it:
Weeks 1-10 Prop 100mgs EOD
Weeks 1-10 Eq 100mgs EOD (mixed with the prop)
Weeks 7-12 Winny 50mgs ED

Then Clomid 300/Day 1 100/10 days 50/10 days

Also wil be using ala at a gram ED, and milk thistle at the same dosage, also glucosamine to help with joints.

I'm running the prop/eq on Sun/Tues/Thurs/Sat, it's ok to go back to back on the weekends right? I'm doing this so i can get 400mgs a week every week.

How does this cycle look to you guys?
Anything I should change?
Is it too much for a beginner?
Plus I start the clomid 3 days after last injection or 5? I was reading some post that said 5.
By the way my stats are:
5'9"
160-165lbs (hence the reason for the cycle)
Bodyfat 10%
Neck 15.5"
Chest 40"
Waist 30"
Arms 15"
Legs 23"

Best lift was deadlifts 330lbs for 3 reps.

Thanks for all the help, sorry it was long.

cycle looks solid, now you have to make sure you diet is high enouph in protein and calories and you will be on your way up

 

[Infusion]

Re: Re: Newbie needs cycle check (karma inside)

cycle looks solid, now you have to make sure you diet is high enouph in protein and calories and you will be on your way up

Diet shouldn't be a problem, looking at about 300grams of protein a day.

How much calories do you think I should take, since I'm trying to stay lean not bulk up. I was thinking 3000 clean calories.

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

DR. Robert Banner
Instead of dropping the eq at week 9 can't I just run the winny a week longer and keep the Eq till week 10? And I've got anti-e's.
And I was also thinking of running the prop until the end of winny, I think I'll do it, I've got plenty of gear. Double the karma for you.

Thanks guys.

Yeah, running the winny till 13 and the EQ till 10 would work fine. Good Luck, but why'd ya give me negative karma?!?

 

[Infusion]

Yeah, running the winny till 13 and the EQ till 10 would work fine. Good Luck, but why'd ya give me negative karma?!?

I never gave you negative karma, I tried to give you double but it said I couldn't.