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Newbie Experience

Monolith1

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Hi Guys,

I'm new here, I've been reading alot, it's a great board for info,
experiences, and great guys. Okay so here it is my newbie cycle after extensive research. I'm 20, 6'2, 190pds (8-10%bodyfat), 2 years weightlifting experience.
(Long post, please bare with me)

1-3wks Dbol (naps) 20mg ED
1-6wks Test Enath (schreing) 500mg
6-8wks Anavar (generic) 40mg
7-9wks Clomid 50mg ED
0.5mg Arimidex ED

I was thinking to taper the anavar to morning only, hopefully to
minimize the post cycle crash. These are my newbie observations (no experience), I thought test is a great base, your body knows it, it's the most natural! The sides are more controlable with arimidex. Deca seemed too suppressive, didn't want sust after hearing of the painful injects (I'm a wimp!). Dbol, low dose I felt was safe and a good kick start. Anavar seems to be getting praises for it's all round safety and effectiveness, also it's lower HTPA suppression, so I thought a great drug to end the cycle. I'll keep on clomid till I feel my test is back.

Okay so with the cycle decided upon, I moved on to the all important training, food, and rest. So here it is:

Food Supp's.

Loads of food.
ALA, Saw Palmetto
Cranberry Ex,
Prolab Whey, Nlarge2
(easy extra 1000cals)
Multivits, zinc, calcium, etc.

Training: 3x wk

1x 20 Squats
1x 20 Deads (alternating with squats)
2x 8 Overhead Press
2x 8 Bench press
1x 8 Bent over rows
1x 8 Curls
1x 8 HAmmer Curls
1x 8 Chins

At first like any newbie, I didn't want to inject, no way, it's like
a drug addict, dangerous, no no. Alot of problems, infections,
swelling, pain, absesses, you name it. But then again, oral only,
stuffed up liver, so there was no getting around it, I'll inject.
Getting anabolics isn't that hard either, especially in UK. From what I read it's legal for personal use! So another problem overcome. Arimidex cost alot, but I wasn't going to take the risk without it. I decided to buy only the ancillaries first! I was not taking a chance.

Now the training, I was going to train hard! But I've only been
training for two years, I bought a barbell, db, 300pds of weights two years ago and been using that. I made great gains, 20pds, then it stopped, my body adapted and didn't want to go further. I wasn't in pain the next day after a workout. I had no bench, no rack, so I couldn't go all out like I wanted to. Heck I couldn't even bench. Then I decided if I was going to juice, I'd join a gym.

So I did. I had a great workout, with the safety equipment, everyone at the gym bigger then me, I pushed to every last rep. Next day I was in pain! YEAH! Then it hit me, I wasn't ready for the juice. With a gym, good diet, I felt I could still progress! I'm only 20, fit, and suddenly I felt I could make gains. Then what all you guys said about waiting, going to your natural potential, I agreed. Health is the most important thing, money comes and goes, even muscle (dare I say it). The gym I went to is quite hardcore, there were obvious juicers, even some young guys like me, massive. But that didn't encourage me to juice.

The opposite I felt I still could use what I got to get bigger. So in
the end, in part thanks to you guys, I decided not to juice (Paradox huh). I wanted to see where my body could go before making the jump, I wasn't interested in competing, I want to get big 220pds lean, but I value my health more. My reasons for juicing was probably vainity and I'm not going to put my health on the line for vanity. I can still gain strength and weight naturally! :) Peace.
 
that isnt a bad beginner cycle. i would throw in some deca or eq for the anablic effect, but that cycle will give you some good gains. i would run the anavar a couple more weeks along with the test. it wont hurt you to take both at the same time.
 
Although I know a few people that do this, I'm not a fan of entire body workouts. Have you tried two muscle groups per workout?
 
Concur

Yes I agree.. I think you may be a little overzealous in the whole body thing. Try concentrating on one or two muscles a day. It will help your concentration and also to put more energy into the focused group.
 
Hmmm

#1 Run the test at least 8 weeks @500/wk
#2 Drop the dbol and add something like deca or EQ, Dbol is not a great drug for a first timer.
If you feel you must take the Dbol take it for a least 4 Weeks start at 25mg/day for the fist two weeks then taper down to 20 for the last two
#3 You are starting the Clomid one week too soon
#4 You can get by on .25mg/day armidex after you get off the dbol and save some $$$
#5 Drop the anavar.
#6 I'd suggest a full 3-4 weeks of clen post cycle.

Otherwise, good cycle.. post your results.
 
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Hi

Thanks guys, helpful as ever. I'm putting off juicing for now, I think I'm too young and not ready. But when I feel ready, I'll do eq, skip the dbol, but I like the anavar end of cycle.

I like my full body workouts (following a kinda HIT style regime). I think I'll make a post on it.

Cheers.
 
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