Newbie: Deca, D-bol or what?

[tonyeua]

I need some info and help; planning on going on my first cycle. Here's me:

Male, 33 years old, been training seriously for 2 years, where I went from 165 lbs to 192 (that's where I am now). I'm 6' ft tall and I've been bulking for the past 6 months, eating as clean as I can, presently at 4500 cals a day...but I have accumulated some body fat.

I am considering, as a newbie, going on D-bol alone or Deca. I didn't really want to mix anything yet to see what one alone does to me...is that a good ideia? Also, I have been researching on gear for a couple of weeks now, I've read 2 e-books on steroids but I'm still a bit raw.

What would you guys reccommend for a first cycle? Would D-bol alone not be good for me right now? Would Deca taken with Clenbuterol be a good option?

Any suggestions would be great....

 

[lilsuperman]

id say Test EN. 500mg a week w/ dbol 25mg a day

 

[tonyeua]

Thanks, man.
I did some research on Test Enan, I was interested in it too, but what shook me off is the fact that it aromatizes in a high rate. Checkout this source and tell me what you think:

"One needs to be familiar with a host of other compounds when using long-acting testosterone esters however. First of all, anti-estrogens. The rate of aromatization of testosterone is quite great, so water retention and fat gain are a fact and gyno is never far off."

This is @ http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catteste.htm.
So should he recommends Novaldex along with it. Have you done this cycle before? Did you use an anti-estrogen?

 

[mr.cuts]

test enanthate at 250mg per week.

 

[tonyeua]

test enanthate at 250mg per week.

Would novaldex be helpfull with test enanthate?
thanx

 

[wls8687]

Would novaldex be helpfull with test enanthate?
thanx

yes it would, i woulden't recommend test enth for first cycle..

 

[mr.cuts]

yes it would, i woulden't recommend test enth for first cycle..

lol! why not bro??? A long acting ester would allow him to keep his blood levels stable without the necessity of sticking himself EOD.

 

[tonyeua]

lol! why not bro??? A long acting ester would allow him to keep his blood levels stable without the necessity of sticking himself EOD.

Isn't Deca long lasting as well? Why would you choose test over deca on your first cycle? Just wondering

 

[DiamondCutCows]

yes it would, i woulden't recommend test enth for first cycle..

Why the heck not?

I say run 250-500mg/wk of Test E for 10-12 weeks.

Kickstart with Dbol if you dont want to wait 3-5 weeks to see something

 

[LVTitan]

yes it would, i woulden't recommend test enth for first cycle..

I WOULD !! my best ever, infrequent injections, huge gains. test is the perfect beginner cycle. maybe even a little bol in the beginning. deca should be saved till it can be stacked in a later cycle. especially without knowing how you react to gear, a long ester like deca could take a while to clear if you react not too well. and it's very suppressive, first cycle should be one that's not too hard to recover from.

 

[tonyeua]

I WOULD !! my best ever, infrequent injections, huge gains. test is the perfect beginner cycle. maybe even a little bol in the beginning. deca should be saved till it can be stacked in a later cycle. especially without knowing how you react to gear, a long ester like deca could take a while to clear if you react not too well. and it's very suppressive, first cycle should be one that's not too hard to recover from.

Hmm.. test enan. sounds pretty good. How is the water retention, loads?