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ecko4544

ecko4544

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I am currently looking into starting a cycle but I'm not really sure which to take. Since I've started looking into it, I've heard about the popular choices, which are Winstrol, Deca, and T2. I'm looking to gain some mass, as I'm only 160lbs. However, I've been hearing alot about the speed and height benefits of Winstrol, which would be great for me, is this true? From what I've heard, I was thinking about stacking Winstrol and Deca, if it's possible because I heard T2 wasn't all that great, but I was hoping one of you guys with prior knowledge would have any recommendations for me, being a first time user.
 
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First thing you need to read the Newbie sticky before you make any posts. I understand you are brand new, but you are going to get your ass flamed off, especially for asking prices.

Go read the newbie sticky before you do anything else.

Then before you ask what gear others recommend you need to give us stats.

Age, height, weight, years of training, diet etc.
 
U heard of the popular ones Winstrol, deca and t2, but u havent heard about test or dbol

Winstrol......Height benefits? Where did u hear tht from?

My suggestion for you, is either to go to http://www.steroid.com and start reading about steroids profiles. Then when you are ready and know basic info, start a test only cycle at 500mg/week for 10 weeks

or otherwise dont get involved!!
 
yep the two posts above make complete sense to me, you should follow that, also read all the stickys on the boards that will also help and basicly just scroll down some threads that intrest you and you can learn that way, thats what i did for years. plenty of knowledge there.
 
Ok, sorry I didn't read it :(. I heard that Winstrol supposedly makes you grow too, just hearsay though.
Here are my stats,
Age: 18
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 160lbs
Years of Training: Approx. 4 years
Diet: I try to eat as much protein and calories as I can, and I eat ALOT, I also use Serious Mass Weight Gainer
 
Well, for your age dont even think about it, cause u still have time to grow.
Just take supplements, like Protien, Creatine, Glutamine, etc but no steroids
 
Macronne said:
Well, for your age dont even think about it, cause u still have time to grow.
Just take supplements, like Protien, Creatine, Glutamine, etc but no steroids
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i agree 18 = no gear.
 
Yeah, I've heard that alot but I'm still going to try a cycle. I've read alot of the profiles, it seems that Deca/Winstrol suits me best, being an athelete. I also read up on D-bol, but it's side effects seemed pretty bad :(. So, now my questions is, what precautions should I take when buying off the black market?
 
U still thinking of taking them??? :rolleyes:

Anyways i dont advice, nor anyone else.....

If u r gonna try them and wont to listen to any advise i think try prohormones, even these arent good for you at 18 but still better than roids
 
If you plan to do a cycle anyway maybe consider taking something that won't shut you down.

Those drugs are usually much harder to get your hands on, especially from a gym guy.

Test will be the easiest to get your hands on I would think. 250-400mg a week of test with a good diet and PCT will yeild you good keepable gains.

Primo/Anavar would probably be better for your age. Especially since you probably won't do any PCT anyway.
 
at 18 you are still growing taller. By taking steroids at this young an age your growth will pretty much cease. Right now your testosterone levels are so darn high there is no need to cycle.
 
Your 18, here's my suggestion, wait 4 years till your body is matured fully and then think about using gear. Until then work your ass off in the gym, eat tons of protein and exhaust all other options. When you've done that and then you feel like you need to get on the gear, you will be ready for it. Good luck with everything bro!
 
ecko4544 said:
are those steroids? i dont see them on the steroid profiles on steroid.com
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I just pissed on myself laughing at this. Now I have to run to the bathroom and look like I'm trying to fcuk the hand dryer so I can get rid of this wet spot. ;)
 
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328406

Read that, and he was lucky he got ever got his test levels back, alot of people don't. Granted he ran a cycle you probably would not but still there are alot of permanant long term effects of steroids. Also just putting your age aside it is plainly obvious you need to do alot more reading to be prepared to use steroids effectively and know all the possible side effects and knw you will be able to live with those side effect the REST of your life. Technically, yes winny can lead to height growth,(growth plate fissure is caused by estrogen, and androgens stimulate height, there were some studies with letro and anavar) However that is years of exposure. Also go look on the internet for abscess photos those are pretty.

Good luck with whatever path you choose.
 
Since you won't do any research yourself I suggest the following cycle. I have outlined everything for you so you will not need to do anything but secure the gear.

Week 1-26 HGH 4iu ED 6 on 1 off
Week 1-12 Sust250 875mg week (Inject EOD)
Week 1-12 EQ 600mg Week (Inject EOD)
Week 8-15 Winstrol 50mg ED

You might want to throw some HCG and Clomid in there. Also maybe some Arimidex and nolva if you got some extra cash laying around.

This is an excellent cycle for an athlete, and it will surely make you grow. Try to eat about 20,000 calories a day and about 750 grams of protein and you should end your cycle at about 300lbs (Give or take 1 or 2lbs)
 
All kidding aside man, you are too young. At age 18 you should have plenty of test flowing through your body already. Juicing at your age is just not a good idea man. You should take the next 4 years or so and really hit the gym and adjust your diet. Try getting down about 4-5K calories per day, divided into 6 meals. Make sure you are getting around 250g of protein each day, also spread out throughout the day. Lift hard, eat right and I guarantee you will grow. 90% of getting big is diet and the gym, the other 10% is the AAS. If you fuck around and run a cycle now, you risk not being able to grow later in life. No one here is trying to be your mom or anything, but for the most part, people on the board know what they are talking about. Take the next four years to get your shit in check and to also research AAS. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me.
 
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