new to board, looking for advice

[Kali]

I have posted this to the women's board, but have had no replies yet... I was hoping that someone here could help. Thank you

Hello,
My name is Kali and I am new to the board. I have been doing cardio & bodybuilding, as well as researching workout enhancement options for years now. I feel that I have reached a point where I have reached a plateau on my own, and wanted some feedback on some things I have researched for possible future use. I am not looking at doing any competitions, however, I do need to bulk up as well as slim down for kickboxing and some photo shoots I have coming up. I have been working out with someone that has done anabolic stacking cycles and we have discussed increasing my workout with Deca. From what I have researched, I have decided to use no more than 50 mg a week, for a 4 week cycle. I have planned out a daily 150-200 g protein diet to go along with this. I would like some feedback from people that have used this before on any side effects or any opinions that you may have about Deca itself. From what I have read, 50 mg should not show many harmful side effects (barring sexually of course.) For the record I am 5’8” and about 140lbs. Thank you for your input.
-Kali

 

[Dr.Evil]

i know a lot of people will tell you not to use deca, but to go with anavar instead. i agree, but i just want to say 50mg/wk of deca will probably be safe for you. however, side effects in women can be permanent, so do you really want to take the chance of probably safe? all steroids have the capability of causing masculinity, and one of the first signs is rashness in the throat, turning into irreversible virulization (thickening of the vocal folds and deeper voice). you can avoid this by lowering your dose. the problem is everyone is different in how susceptible they are to these side effects. even though 50mg of deca should be safe, it's ester is very long, which means that it will stay in your body for a long time after you stop injecting yourself. if you feel any tickling in your throat, you can't just stop the injections and hope that your symptoms won't escalate into the irreversible stage because it won't. with a fast acting steroid like anavar or winny if you feel any of these symptoms come on you can easily withdraw it and the symptoms should go away also. anavar, winny, and even halo are much easier to control and monitor than injectables and are more suitable for women who are not competitive BBs.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

5'8" and 140, nice genetics.

I don't know about Deca for a Female as far as slimming down. Plus your clit might grow into something that would scare your boyfriend. I think you would be better off using Anavar (Oxandrolone) if you can get some and afford it. Mix with Clen and you should be smokin'. If you cant find or afford Anavar, try Winstrol (Stanozolol).

 

[SofaGeorge]

Kali, my wife was a highly competative amateur. She trained at Gold's Venice and was friends with most of the women who competed either amateur or with their pro card. I have extensive experience with women's AS cycles and the results. If you want... PM me and I will shoot you my phone number.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

Well Dr. Evil, you beat me to it probably by 10 seconds as our post times are exact. LOL. Good advice in my opinion. Listen to the Dr.

 

[Dr.Evil]

no AS should be unaffordable for an average female...

 

[jc21]

i really dont know much about women and gear, but i hoping to learn about it. but one thing i noticed is you are only gonna run the deca for 4 weeks. why is that? deca takes about that long to kick in. i would not take it less than 8 weeks. maybe do 25mg/wk for 8 weeks and see how that works out. if it doesnt do anything for you, then you can always up the dose next time. hope this helps...ever need any help feel free to pm me.

 

[Dr.Evil]

Well Dr. Evil, you beat me to it probably by 10 seconds as our post times are exact. LOL. Good advice in my opinion. Listen to the Dr.

lightning fingers my friend

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

5'8" and 140, nice genetics.

I don't know about Deca for a Female as far as slimming down. Plus your clit might grow into something that would scare your boyfriend. I think you would be better off using Anavar (Oxandrolone) if you can get some and afford it. Mix with Clen and you should be smokin'. If you cant find or afford Anavar, try Winstrol (Stanozolol).

Just read my post and want to clarify something. When I say "mix with Clen" I don't actually mean to mix it. LOL. I mean to take or stack Clenbuterol at the same time of your Anavar or Winstrol cycle.

 

[Dr.Evil]

Just read my post and want to clarify something. When I say "mix with Clen" I don't actually mean to mix it. LOL. I mean to take or stack Clenbuterol at the same time of your Anavar or Winstrol cycle.

shooting clen might be pretty cool though lol.

 

[liftsiron]

I agree with much of what Dr. Evil said, also deca can really screw up your monthly cycle long afer stopping the drug. I would recommend primo at 100mg a week or anavar at 5 to 15 mgs a day. I do not reccommend halo for women especially when you are not a bb competitor. I know quite a few women who use low dose eq without any harmful sides as well. Winny is also pretty well tolerated by most women.

 

[SofaGeorge]

i really dont know much about women and gear, but i hoping to learn about it. but one thing i noticed is you are only gonna run the deca for 4 weeks. why is that? deca takes about that long to kick in. i would not take it less than 8 weeks. maybe do 25mg/wk for 8 weeks and see how that works out. if it doesnt do anything for you, then you can always up the dose next time. hope this helps...ever need any help feel free to pm me.

My experience has always been that 6 week cycles are best for women. 6 week cycles minimize sides and give plenty of time for muscle growth. 8 weeks is too long.

Deca is also NOT the nandrolone of choice for women. Durobolin is a much better option. (Though I do have to add I saw a couple girls do an experiment with long acting Laurabolin with very positive results.)

 

[Dr.Evil]

shoot for no more than 70mg/wk of any AS. it's really the total mg that counts and not so much the type, but orals are better for first time female users because it's easy to control.

my suggestion is 5mg/day of anavar to start, working your way up to 10mg/day. for 6-7 weeks. my gf had great results with this and actually backed down from 10mg/day cuz that was making her hair thin a little.

 

[ultragainz]

anavar with creatine...and test prop at 25mgs e3d is good too what most girls say.

 

[liftsiron]

ultragainz anavar with creatine...and test prop at 25mgs e3d is good too what most girls say.

I forgot to mention low dose prop as being safe and effective.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

anavar with creatine...and test prop at 25mgs e3d is good too what most girls say.

yes, yes. if you decide to go the anavar route, creatine would be beneficial.

i think you have plenty of good responses here so far, but bump up your question in the women's forum. you should get some first hand experienced replies in there sooner or later.

 

[Dr.Evil]

anavar with creatine...and test prop at 25mgs e3d is good too what most girls say.

good call

 

[Dr.Evil]

yes, yes. if you decide to go the anavar route, creatine would be beneficial.

good suggestion with the creatine. creatine would be beneficial with any AS though, not just anavar.