New guy here, looking for some advice....

[Buffguy75]

Hey Guys,
Fisrt off, just wanted to say hello, to all the fellow meatheads out there. My name is tony, im 23 and ive been lifting for 6 years now. I just decided to use a lil extra help recenlty and have a few questions. Ive never used anything before besides creatine, glutamine, aminos, vitamines and protien. But I decided that I wanted to give anabolics a try to see what a few of my buddies have been experiencing. All I am going to do for the first time im doing them is a cycle of injectable winny. 6 weeks worth, 20 1cc shots, 1 every other day. Thats it, I know its pretty tame and not gonna do anything huge, but I definetly wanted to start slow and see how I respond before I go crazy and get some serious cycle going. So anyways, my queston is do I need to take anything post winny like clomphine or anyhting like that to keep whatever gains I make? Or is it mild enough that its not really going to make a difference? I am 6'3, 283 lbs, about 17-19%BF and have a solid diet as far as getting enough carbs and protein. I drink plently of water and am looking for some small to moderate gains from doing this cycle. So please, everybody throw in their 2 cents, any and all advice is welcome. Thanks guys.
BigT75

 

[rpol]

That would be good for a cutting cycle to harden you up, and yeah you will need PCT as winny will shut you down, test wise, almost all AS I know of will, Pct to keep gains a definite, a mix would be better,Eq and winny etc. or add test, just my.02

 

[jubei]

If you lift heavy winny might not be for you. It fucking killed my joints. You would probably be better off with some test and an anti e.

 

[griznuts2004]

If it wasn't your first time using, I would say tren! I'm in week two of my first tren cycle and I love this shit! vascularity is at an all time high, along with hardness. I would throw in a little test prop myself, 100mg EOD. PCT is a must, rpol is correct.

 

[Buffguy75]

hey guys,
thanks for the advice, but what is PCT?? haha, im totally new at this, im readin up on it though so I wont be asking dumb questions for too long
bigt75

 

[jubei]

PCT = Post Cycle Therapy, and is used to restore normal testicular function because the use of AAS will shut down natural production of testosterone. Standard PCT is HCG for the last 1-2 weeks of elevated test levels followed by 3-4 weeks of clomid.

 

[Bonkme2]

For your first cycle you're going to have a helluva time doing injects EOD. Even if they are only 1cc a piece, you're going to be sore as all hell for a while.

 

[Lao Tzu]

might want to watch your hair too, a guy i know who is going bald wont touch winny because of what it does to his hair.

 

[tboy72]

maybee you should look into anavar. less sides....imo much better mass and strength gains. do some researh on var if you havent already...its a great first cycle with no side effects...for me anyways... nor do i know anyone who has ever had sides from var..its much more$ then winny, but way worth it....good luck!

 

[rodneyabs]

skip the winny and do 500mg/test/wk, 75mg of tren eod.

you'll thank me later bro.

 

[frotobaggins]

I dont advise anyone to do tren on there first cycle. Also you need to do winny ed because it clears out so fast. I think you could clean up your diet and do something along the lines as 400mg enanthate ew with an anti-a with good results.

 

[italiansavagebeast]

Do EQ, Winny, and some test ...

That is my 2 cents.

 

[jubei]

Holy shit, why does everyone want this guy to do so much shit. 500mg test/week (sust/cyp/prop/enth) would be more than enough for a first cycle. Stack shit later on.

 

[T2O]

500 mgs is even a lot for the first time although it could be domne with little problems I am sure. 250mgs cyp. or enath is plenty. I would do test or var or stack the two for the first cycle. var is very expensive though.....