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apparently they lowered a sub with video cam into the ocean recently and upon analyzing the tape they discovered a giant squid and a 12 foot six gill shark.

I bet there is all kind of creepy shit down there where the sun doesn't reach.
 
I think I'm happier not knowing what's all down there.. I tend to remind myself of it when I go in the ocean, and that doesn't make for leisurely waterbed-floating.. :worried:
 
One thing to consider.... know how they have found 3 feet worms on the bottom of the ocean floor? Where the pressure was enough to bend and crack steel? And these worms were crawling around with no effort at all?

Imagine the strength those suckers could have if you brought one to the surface.
 
Just when you start thinking about things like that is when some seaweed brushes against your leg.. BAHHHHH!!!!! :eek2: :eek2:
 
If those tube worms where brought to the surface with normal air pressure they would basically explode. Ever see what happens when a fish is quickly raised from 100+ feet to the surface? Their swim bladders rupture and you get one bloated dead fish.

6 gill sharks have been known to exist, isn't the greenland shark a 6 giller? Giant squids also wash ashore alot, however a live one has never been seen so this is cool. Doubt they could ever catch a live one since bringing it up would kill it because of the temp difference (squids blood dosn't respond well to temp changes) and the pressure change.
 
Maybe something along the lines of the Loch Ness Monster down there....
 
HEY !!! i just found a one eyed sea serpent... i will keep him for my own...now to find a aquarium big enough...............
 
AAP said:
Maybe something along the lines of the Loch Ness Monster down there....
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Not going to happen. Something of that size wouldn't be able to survive pressures because of the air cavity of the lungs and having to rise for air constantly. By the time it depressurizes and repressurizes for the depths it would be the next day.

(I have no idea how far sperm (shaddap) whales can go though, but I know quite deep)
 
Vash said:
Not going to happen. Something of that size wouldn't be able to survive pressures because of the air cavity of the lungs and having to rise for air constantly. By the time it depressurizes and repressurizes for the depths it would be the next day.

(I have no idea how far sperm (shaddap) whales can go though, but I know quite deep)
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teheehhehheheheehee ...you said sperm
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
The deepest part of the opcean is the Marianas trench just of the coast of Guam.. its approx 35,000 feet deep.
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Or about large enough to fit Bhudda's ass.
 
And that is not counting what kind of freaks hide out in those caves down there.
 
mdd said:
how deep is the ocean anyways
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Can reach up to 11 000m in the Pacific. I think only once in the history a submarine reached that part (the Marianna trench). It was called the "Trieste", basically a giant tank filled with oil and lead and a little bulb at the bottom carrying one man only.
 
and you guys can thank God we dont have the Giant shark around anymore cause this beast was 50ft long and each tooth the size of a human hand.
 
AAP said:
One thing to consider.... know how they have found 3 feet worms on the bottom of the ocean floor? Where the pressure was enough to bend and crack steel? And these worms were crawling around with no effort at all?

Imagine the strength those suckers could have if you brought one to the surface.
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they would punch the world in the face on a whim
 
AAP said:
One thing to consider.... know how they have found 3 feet worms on the bottom of the ocean floor? Where the pressure was enough to bend and crack steel? And these worms were crawling around with no effort at all?

Imagine the strength those suckers could have if you brought one to the surface.
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It would explode before you got it to the surface. Same basic principals that govern our systems where we would implode at that depth and level of gravity but in reverse order.
 
Yeah those deep sea worms dont have amazing strength, that's different.

I heard they also found evidence there were once giant birds of prey. They found a skull identical to an eagles, except so large or would have had a 60 ft wingspan or so

I just don't think such a bird could fly by the laws of mechanics... when a bird becomes twice as large the wing surface increases by 2^2 and the mass by 2^3

so the larger the bird the harder it is to fly. currently existing birds confirm this.

They DID find this skull though. It's a mystery.
 
Robert Jan said:
Yeah those deep sea worms dont have amazing strength, that's different.

I heard they also found evidence there were once giant birds of prey. They found a skull identical to an eagles, except so large or would have had a 60 ft wingspan or so

I just don't think such a bird could fly by the laws of mechanics... when a bird becomes twice as large the wing surface increases by 2^2 and the mass by 2^3

so the larger the bird the harder it is to fly. currently existing birds confirm this.

They DID find this skull though. It's a mystery.
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And bees/house flys should not be able to fly following the same physics mechanics wings area models, and yet they do..

By the way.. Less than 5% of the worlds oceans have yet to be explored.
95% of it is still a mystery .. What else is out there ?
 
False. It was the bumblebee that was considered flightless by mechanics but still flies and they figured it out. the exact travel of the wingstroke, the line of movement was not known yet and it was simply some more nifty than the physicists had been able to think of.
 
Robert Jan said:
False. It was the bumblebee that was considered flightless by mechanics but still flies and they figured it out. the exact travel of the wingstroke, the line of movement was not known yet and it was simply some more nifty than the physicists had been able to think of.
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My point exactly.. You said this prehistoric birds size would preclude it
from flight "by the laws of flight mechanics".

Following these same standard stated LAWS of flight, the bumblebee also "should" not fly...
But it uses a different method, not standard Bernoulli’s law.

And I never said we had not figure out how they flew..

The muscles that move the wings down are powerful enough to generated enough force to lift the weight of the bee.

On the downstroke, the wings are "feathered", or turned vertically so that moving up they do not generated a force down to undo all the work of lifting the bee in the first place.
 
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of course its more complicated than the surface and mass i understand. but notice how a big condor has a lot of trouble getting airborne and a sparrow or swallow just shoots off. 60 ft birds would need wings that are massive in proportion to their body
 
Maybe it didn't fly, but sort of jumped off high places and glided along.

Like rabid squirrels.
 
Robert Jan said:
What would they eat anyway... snatch a few dozen deer every day or something
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Would not other animals they would prey on be larger as well ?
Giant Deer maybe ?

Agreed on the size vs speed comment on flight, but bees are still awsome in ability vs wing size.. As are hummingbirds.. Saw a bunch of them in Pennsylvania and they are so fast and nimble it is really amazing..

I guess it's all about wing speed..
 
AAP said:
Maybe it didn't fly, but sort of jumped off high places and glided along.

Like rabid squirrels.
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the biggest eagles alive today already take this measure. but then how do they get back up? They need to be able to glide up on rising air streams. I think our mega-eagle here would be too hefty for that
 
Take the tram to higher altitudes? I don't know.

Maybe they just lived in habits of mountains, where there was always something to jump off of. Or they used their wings to pull themselves up rocks to higher ground and then jump.
 
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