new cycle fresh start need advice

[dbgclub111]

so after trying deca 300/wk and sustanon 350/wk for 8 weeks then crashing after panic attacks and no pct (crazy i know)...

it's been 12 weeks, I am feeling better on anti depressants now. want to start again.

I have Deca, Test Cyp and Winny.

Think I should try a test only to determine if my bad reaction was to deca. Want to start with a small cycle. Just want to gain lean mass. Have HCG for pct


here goes:

wk 1-8 200 mg Test cycle (100mg 2 x a week)
maybe pyramiding on and off
wk 4-10 50 mg Winny EOD.

PCT:

HCG 6 weeks 1 inj 3,000 per week.

Does anyone think I need anything else? AIFM to keep the water off? or what else woudl be good?

Do you think this cycle will give me a little gains?

Thanks

 

[shivastool]

Try this:

wk 1-10 400-500 mg Test cycle (250mg 2 x a week)
wk 8-12 50 mg Winny ED.
adex .5mg ED

no pyramiding!

PCT:
HCG 1,000iu 3x per week for 3 weeks
Nolva 20 mg ED for 6 weeks.

Simple. Decent mass. Safe. Keepable gains.
Make sure you have everything on hand BEFORE starting!!!

 

[dbgclub111]

Try this:

wk 1-10 400-500 mg Test cycle (250mg 2 x a week)
wk 8-12 50 mg Winny ED.
adex .5mg ED

no pyramiding!

PCT:
HCG 1,000iu 3x per week for 3 weeks
Nolva 20 mg ED for 6 weeks.

Simple. Decent mass. Safe. Keepable gains.
Make sure you have everything on hand BEFORE starting!!!

can i try nolva thru the cycle to keep bloat down? or woudl the winstrol take care of that? Is it a pill, can I ask my fr for it?

where can i get adex? is that for water retention as well?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

AIFM is sufficient to keep bloat to a minimum, with your lower dose cycle, you will need vary little.

dex may be strong enough for that cycle, generally its weak.

these drugs do help with water retention, but their primary purpose is to decrease estrogen production (which in turn reduces water retention)

An advantage, other than potency, that AIFM and aromasin have over arimidex is that they lower SHBG (= more "free"= which means active= testosterone)

 

[shivastool]

can i try nolva thru the cycle to keep bloat down? or woudl the winstrol take care of that? Is it a pill, can I ask my fr for it?

where can i get adex? is that for water retention as well?

I reccomend arimidex for the cycle "strength" i laid out, not if you stick to the low dose.
Actually, judging by your answers, I suggest you read this before even considering a cycle:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441371

This is your body your messin with. Treat it with care by taking a few moments to find out what is the safe and effective way.