Never seen a stack like this...(rate it)

[musketeer]

16 week cycle for a newbie (includes mass and then cuts):

Dbol (D)- Pyramid up to 35mg ed for a week then taper down
(d) - 10mg ed

Sust (S)- 1 x 250mg every 6-8 days

Proviron (P) - 12.5 ed when taken

Winny (W)- 25mg each day (40 days straight)

Nolva (N)(on hand & post cycle)
Liv 52 -throughout cycle

TAKEN LIKE THIS (each symbol is one week (aprox)

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week1----------------------------------week16

 

[alltraps]

i think its not good at all. run the sust at 500mg a week for the whole cycle,
dont taper the dbol. start at 25mg and stay there for 4-5 weeks.
i wouldnt run winny right after the dbol. even with liv52, its too much 17aa
and anther thing, i wouldnt do a cutter right after a bulker. do two seperate cycles, 8 weeks each with 8 weeks between
for a bulker, do sust and dbol
for a cutter, run sust and winny, or sust and fina, or prop and eq or prop and dbol and arimidex

 

[mikebzt]

16 week cycle for a newbie (includes mass and then cuts):

Dbol (D)- Pyramid up to 35mg ed for a week then taper down
(d) - 10mg ed

Sust (S)- 1 x 250mg every 6-8 days

Proviron (P) - 12.5 ed when taken

Winny (W)- 25mg each day (40 days straight)

Nolva (N)(on hand & post cycle)
Liv 52 -throughout cycle

TAKEN LIKE THIS (each symbol is one week (aprox)

Start-----------------------------------End
...DDDDDDDD..WWWWWW...dd
.........SSSSSS..................NNNNNNNNNN
.............PPPPPPPP..........PPPPPP
week1----------------------------------week16

way too much gear for a newbie. Keep it simple. 500 mg sust week for 10 weeks. Simple and so effective. Use the Winny for a cycle later on.

 

[musketeer]

Thanks bud - trying to use as little as poss because they seem to have such a strong effect on the user:

1st cycle: Dbol (naposims) only - went from 195-220 on 30mg ed for 8weeks (fucking unreal).

There is actually a 10 day gap between the Dbol and Winny, and the winny is only 25mg/day plus the Dbol was tapered up and down. I do take the point of just starting at (say) 25mg ed but might do it slightly lower at 20. Any other opinions - Proviron -for example?

 

[majutsu]

I second alltraps advice.

 

[DIVISION]

i think its not good at all. run the sust at 500mg a week for the whole cycle,
dont taper the dbol. start at 25mg and stay there for 4-5 weeks.
i wouldnt run winny right after the dbol. even with liv52, its too much 17aa
and anther thing, i wouldnt do a cutter right after a bulker. do two seperate cycles, 8 weeks each with 8 weeks between
for a bulker, do sust and dbol
for a cutter, run sust and winny, or sust and fina, or prop and eq or prop and dbol and arimidex

Trap is right.

Don't run a bulker and cutter back 2 back.........it's a waste and a heavy toll on your system.

Time On = Time Off, then move in to your cutter......

Your body only works within guidelines.....you can't force it to do what you want......you can only do your body harm that way.

Hope this helps.


DIV