need some help from yall

[georgie24]

if all goes well at the doc's tomorrow i will be at the gym the next day. i have been on a pretty long layoff due to stress in life and horrible shoulder pain. i have gained fat and lost muscle and strength. i am going to try a stack me and sofa-g talked about on a nother board its gonna look like this

npp 100 mg e3d
masteron 100mg e3d


ok now heres the thing dietwise i have been a "cutter" for the last few years religiously. times have changed and so have my goals. i would like to get 15 pounds of rock out of this cycle in eight weeks or so. my biggest issue is gonna be food intake. i dont know how to feed myself for muscle gains, i mean i have an idea but thats it just an idea. i need you guys to tell me what to shove down my throat. im 100% determined

 

[shortstack]

super high protien, as many meals as you can per day 35-50g pro per meal. and complex carbs.
protiens from-------

lean red meat
skinless chicken breast
fish(albacore, bass, cod, halibut, red snapper, orange roughy, tuna)
egg whites
turkey.

complex carbs from--------

pasta
potatoes
rice
whole wheat flour
yams
sweet potatoe
squash
peas
red beans
pumpkin
pita bread
oatmeal
cream of rice
corn
rice cakes
barley

fats from------------

mct oils
omega three capsules
flax seed

alot of water.
10g creatine
30g of glutamine (dont care if nelson says its usless, it makes my muscles feel fuller)
lots of sleep
max 6-8 reps heavy weight (get your negatives, its really important)
bring the intencity. (applies to gym and diet)

body weight times 16 is how many calories you want ////per day
body weight times 2 how many protien you want ////per day

what i wrote here should get you weight in no time if you bring the intensity

 

[shortstack]

hope this helps

 

[georgie24]

hell yeah thanks. i dunno about chicken though. a few years straight of it makes me think of the alternatives

 

[Mavy]

If you are looking for mass, then I think that you wont see much in terms of gains with that dose of gear. I would use the NPP at 100mg/eod or 200/e3d at the least. Talk to del perio, he was using the BM NPP, and thought it was fake at 100mg/eod and didnt notice jack from it, until he upped the dosage. Then he saw results. You may respond better than him though, so who knows. Also, masteron seems like a poor choice for 15lbs of mass. This drug is the perfect drug for cutting, and like winny is best used when you are already at a very low BF. I would swap the masteron out for 25mg/day of dbol with the NPP. I think that will give you your 15lbs much easier.

As for meals go, for mass the key is to continually eat throughout the day, try to eat something every few hrs. I usually eat 4 planned meals, and 3 snacks/shakes. Shortstack has some good foods listed there.

I here you on the chicken, I cant eat chicken breasts anymore unless they are with something else. Ate them for too long, and they just seem so bland. I eat beef most of the time instead, and have chicken maybe 1 or 2 times per week. Here is an little factoid for you...

It may be surprising, but lean beef has only one more gram of saturated fat than a skinless chicked breast, and six times more zinc, three times more iron, and eight times more vitamin B12. Go figure...

One way that I do like chicked is with Spinach cooled in Olive Oil and feta cheese over top of them. I eat lots of seafood and red meat. I make power chili to take with me to work etc. Very good and super powerful. hahaha. Its lots of lean ground beef, tomotaoes, any veggies you want, black beans, kidney beans, sausage, chili powder, a little bit of honey, and brown rice. They trick is to make it mostly ground beef and very thick. That shit sticks to your guts! Good stuff. They brown rice in it gives a little extra carbs to it. Also, I would take in at least 3 protien shakes/day. Take them with skim milk. If you want the mass you have to eat! Get them cals down anyway you can.

BTW, Are you sure this is a good idea Georgie? What happened with the enlarged heart episode?

Mavy

 

[alxx11uml]

i'm new here and haven't figured it all out yet but i have a question. Can OTC fat butners such as xenadrine or hydroxycut be taken along with d-bol

 

[Big BX]

i'm new here and haven't figured it all out yet but i have a question. Can OTC fat butners such as xenadrine or hydroxycut be taken along with d-bol

Yes. But, many use dbol to bulk, not cut up. If your looking for that kick for your workout, dbol is enough.

 

[alxx11uml]

Yes. But, many use dbol to bulk, not cut up. If your looking for that kick for your workout, dbol is enough.

so would it not be recommended to do both bulk and cut at the same time by alternating heavy weeks and rep weeks of lifting

 

[alxx11uml]

how do i know if my e-mail is encrypted

 

[bw1]

alxx, if you don't know then it probably isn't.

 

[alxx11uml]

alxx, if you don't know then it probably isn't.

how can i get it encrypted

 

[Big BX]

so would it not be recommended to do both bulk and cut at the same time by alternating heavy weeks and rep weeks of lifting

You cannot bulk and cut with dbol. Reps to not make you cut, either. There is a way to do it. It is expensive and takes 16-20 weeks.

 

[Big BX]

so would it not be recommended to do both bulk and cut at the same time by alternating heavy weeks and rep weeks of lifting

You cannot bulk and cut with dbol. Reps to not make you cut, either. There is a way to do it. It is expensive and takes 16-20 weeks.

 

[IwouldSlamU]

you can bulk or cut with any steroid......diet is what does it....dbol....does not make you fat....food does!

 

[Redux]

Uhh... There are a couple of things going on here at once.

Georgie -- Gotta say, if you are looking for mass that cycle doesn't sound right. Doesn't seem long enough, and for my money, if you are going to do 2 injectables, one of the had damn well better be test. Of course, I haven't personally used either of the products you are talking about, so I may be talking out my ass.

Alxx -- Bulking and cutting are incompatible. Do one at a time. I have used OTC fat burners with dbol, and I was fine, but what are your reasons for considering it. What are your goals?

Also, You will get an encrypted e-mail account as part of the package if you go platinum. Otherwise, go to hushmail.com or cyber-rights.net. Or maybe they are both ".net". Not really sure.

 

[Big BX]

you can bulk or cut with any steroid......diet is what does it....dbol....does not make you fat....food does!

True. But they cannot be done at the same time with this steroid. As I stated before, it can be done but not with what he wants to do. Steroids are not magic.