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tbone31

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hey guys first time posting ive been searching and reading the site for a while and I will give you guys some of my info, im 6'3 225 with 15 percent body fat. I'm a goaltender in hockey, i train hard every off season but have never been to happy with my gains, i dont hardcore diet but i dont eat junk food or fast food. I dont want to put on any mass but i wan't to get alot leaner and more cut and faster. And im not cool with injecting myself, i've heard from other people that winny is my best bet? any advice on this or something else? thanks.
 
For what you describe winny or anavar is your best choice. Winny is the least expensive of the two options. 50mg/day (split up into 2 or more daily doses) is the standard. However, oral steroids like winny and anavar are tough on the liver and their use should be limited to 6 weeks or less.

This is a major disadvantage of the orals and one of the reasons that people here will tell you to get over your fear of needles.

The other problem is that after 3 weeks on a steriod cycle your body stops producing endogenous testosterone. So if you run a 6 weeks cycle of winny without test, your sex drive and function likely go to hell after 3 weeks on and won't return until 3 or 4 weeks after you stop. Assuming you have a girlfriend, will she put up with that for 7 weeks?
 
tbone31 said:
hey guys first time posting ive been searching and reading the site for a while and I will give you guys some of my info, im 6'3 225 with 15 percent body fat. I'm a goaltender in hockey, i train hard every off season but have never been to happy with my gains, i dont hardcore diet but i dont eat junk food or fast food. I dont want to put on any mass but i wan't to get alot leaner and more cut and faster. And im not cool with injecting myself, i've heard from other people that winny is my best bet? any advice on this or something else? thanks.

If you want to get leaner, your best bet is to dial in your diet. Diet is key; AS is an aid only. :coffee:
 
Working out and your diet are both 50% each of the equasion. You cannot gain on a hard workout with a shitty diet, you cannot gain on a good diet without workouts. Get a book called The Zone Diet. It is an easier one to follow than the dedicated bodybuilder diet. If you can sharpen that up, then I would recommend Anavar. Great drug, awesome strength and endurance gains, no weight gain nor water retention.
 
mikevegas said:
Working out and your diet are both 50% each of the equasion. You cannot gain on a hard workout with a shitty diet, you cannot gain on a good diet without workouts. Get a book called The Zone Diet. It is an easier one to follow than the dedicated bodybuilder diet. If you can sharpen that up, then I would recommend Anavar. Great drug, awesome strength and endurance gains, no weight gain nor water retention.


I can sharpen the diet up for sure thanks for the advice on that book i will pick it up, and the sex drive does the same thing happen on Anavar? if so what can be done to combat this besides not taking, cause i would not be cool if i couldnt get hard.
 
Is this Jose theadore?? Need to get back into playing good eh? :p

Id say anavar would be your best bet. I wouldnt run winstrol with your position in sport. Winstrol tends to cause joint pain and thats the last thing you need as a keeps!

But overall id stay away from it. You not wanting to inject means ya want a quick and easy fix. If you play somewaht professionally, not really a need for aas for goaltender too.

Just hit up an excellent workout plan and hit that diet your looking for to get shredded, and stick to it!!

thezan
 
thezan said:
Is this Jose theadore?? Need to get back into playing good eh? :p

Id say anavar would be your best bet. I wouldnt run winstrol with your position in sport. Winstrol tends to cause joint pain and thats the last thing you need as a keeps!

But overall id stay away from it. You not wanting to inject means ya want a quick and easy fix. If you play somewaht professionally, not really a need for aas for goaltender too.

Just hit up an excellent workout plan and hit that diet your looking for to get shredded, and stick to it!!

thezan

all great advice and plans guys but it's not exactly a quick fix im looking for its the quickness and strength gains that im interested in and all without getting too big. I also dont want to inject because it's my understanding that it stays longer in your system that way. correct me if im wrong. because we do get random tested most likely in november if at all. The body fat and weight is off season stats so thats after me boozing hard after loosing out in playoffs and eating like a fat mess for 3-4 weeks. At the start of training camp I am in pretty good shape, but i just want to be better. I know that diet is key as long as a good training program.

How much more per pill usually is var over winny?
 
tbone31 said:
all great advice and plans guys but it's not exactly a quick fix im looking for its the quickness and strength gains that im interested in and all without getting too big. I also dont want to inject because it's my understanding that it stays longer in your system that way. correct me if im wrong. because we do get random tested most likely in november if at all. The body fat and weight is off season stats so thats after me boozing hard after loosing out in playoffs and eating like a fat mess for 3-4 weeks. At the start of training camp I am in pretty good shape, but i just want to be better. I know that diet is key as long as a good training program.

How much more per pill usually is var over winny?

We don't discuss prices on the board but you can expect to pay 4 times as much per milligram for anavar vs. winny.
 
nydj66 said:
We don't discuss prices on the board but you can expect to pay 4 times as much per milligram for anavar vs. winny.


yeah sorry i knew that, i should have been more clear thats what i meant by how much more it is.
 
Also please note the for many, winny is very hard on the joints. Nearly crippled me. That, plus it shredded my hair like no other gear.
 
kbrkbr said:
Also please note the for many, winny is very hard on the joints. Nearly crippled me. That, plus it shredded my hair like no other gear.



But how old were you when you took it?
 
thanks for the advice everyone, if i can get my hands on some var i'll be set, its getting harder to do, seems like getting winny is like buying advil everyone has it, but var is a different story. I bought the zone diet book, got it for 5 bucks of ebay. I'll keep you guys posted if and when i can get some var.
 
imo winny isnt for you!! imo i shouldnt be used by people who play contact sport but that is just my opinion


use anavar it is the best roid for you but imo it isnt needed a diet is what is needed. tbol is cheaper and can be used as efectively here as all your lookin for is to hold onto your muscle. so that is an option and you wont have th ejoint sides from winny or the cost form anavar.
 
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