Need some Advice Please

[bones424]

I want to put together some sort of oral only cycle. I know there are some who are against oral only cycles. I also read a few posts were well respected members have no issues with oral only cycles as long as proper on cycle and post cycle is run.

I have my reasons for not pinning at this time, which I will share if anyone finds it to be important information to know. At this time, for this topic though, my ability to pin or not to pin is not relevant.

My question is, which direction should I go with this cycle? I am looking to add Mass and Strength so the apparent choice would be Dbol. The question is, what if anything should I take with Dbol? Is the Dbol worth it, with a product like Beastrol out there?

I have done plenty of research on on cycle and off cycle treatment and will plan that out once I know what I will be taking.

I am 28 years old 5'10 and 183lbs (as of this morning) approx 16% bf
I have been working out for 8 years, with the past 4 being more focused on my goals.
I workout 5 days a week, isolating particular muscle groups. Because I am looking to add some mass, have cut my cardio to 2 days a week.
My diet has been pretty strict over the past 2 years.
I take in 3300 calories per day, 350g protein, 400g carbs 80g fat

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I suppose you could say this will be my first run with AAS even though I did foolishly take some M1T a few years ago before I really should have.

 

[Stryker1992]

I want to put together some sort of oral only cycle. I know there are some who are against oral only cycles. I also read a few posts were well respected members have no issues with oral only cycles as long as proper on cycle and post cycle is run.

I have my reasons for not pinning at this time, which I will share if anyone finds it to be important information to know. At this time, for this topic though, my ability to pin or not to pin is not relevant.

My question is, which direction should I go with this cycle? I am looking to add Mass and Strength so the apparent choice would be Dbol. The question is, what if anything should I take with Dbol? Is the Dbol worth it, with a product like Beastrol out there?

I have done plenty of research on on cycle and off cycle treatment and will plan that out once I know what I will be taking.

I am 28 years old 5'10 and 183lbs (as of this morning) approx 16% bf
I have been working out for 8 years, with the past 4 being more focused on my goals.
I workout 5 days a week, isolating particular muscle groups. Because I am looking to add some mass, have cut my cardio to 2 days a week.
My diet has been pretty strict over the past 2 years.
I take in 3300 calories per day, 350g protein, 400g carbs 80g fat

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I suppose you could say this will be my first run with AAS even though I did foolishly take some M1T a few years ago before I really should have.

Bro..I would use any of the products below before I would go with d-bol ever again and I was using d-bol for years. If you want more mass than strength or cuts go with Methadrol or Dmz.DMZ is more of a dry gain. You should run E-control with both of these.

If you want strength, dry mass go with Cyanostane. The cyanostane does not aromatize so you do not have to worry about that with that choice.

I swear you will not be disappointed with the results.!

 

[bones424]

Stryker, Thank you for your reply. Would there be any benifit to stacking methadrol and cyanostane together? Or one or the other with 1-Andro RX?

I would probably be more inclined to go with more strength gains before mass. Being around 16% BF, I can stand to lose some fat. I would hate to put on mass and then have to go into a mass cutting cycle in order to look fit.

I look forward to hearing back from you.

 

[Stryker1992]

Stryker, Thank you for your reply. Would there be any benifit to stacking methadrol and cyanostane together? Or one or the other with 1-Andro RX?

I would probably be more inclined to go with more strength gains before mass. Being around 16% BF, I can stand to lose some fat. I would hate to put on mass and then have to go into a mass cutting cycle in order to look fit.

I look forward to hearing back from you.

Bro..I would go with the Andro RX then. the gains are lean and it does also help with lowering body fat. There is also no water retention.

I would stay away from the methadrol...that is a heavy duty bulker.

You certainly could run the Andro with the Cyanostane. Make sure you get E-control to help with post cycle recovery.

Check to see if orbit nutrition has these products in stock..he has excellent prices....

once you look you will see what i mean.

 

[irishrugger]

I highly recommend the cyanostane. I didn't get chosen for logging any IML products so I bought a bottle anyway as a kickstart for my 10week test E cycle. I'm only 1 week in and the results are nothing short of phenomenal.
Stats 1 week ago:...these are numbers I try and hit for 2-3reps for my last set
Age 21
Weight 238lbs
Height 6'3"
Bench 395lbs x 2
Deadlift straight bar 505lbs x 3
Squat 465lbs x 2

Stats this week:
Age..yes I'm still 21
Weight 245lbs
Height 6'3"
Bench..hit 435lbs for 2 reps today
Deadlift 535lbs x 2
Squat 480 x 2

Now obviously I have been training and eating like a mad man, but I feel cyanostane has been awesome. I have a great drive in the weight room..focus, energy, and pumps are f***** phenomenal.

I can't wait for the next 4 weeks...to continue the cyanostane, and even more pumped to see what I can achieve at the end of week 10.

Id like to give a shout out to radar for initially logging the cyanstane because without reading that I probably would not have tried it out. But damn I'm glad I did.

Stats

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[bones424]

Thanks guys! I read Radar's log last night. It was very helpful. I think I'll place an order this evening when I get home from work!

 

[irishrugger]

Good decision bro...let us know how it goes or if you need any other advice

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[bones424]

Thanks Irish and I will. I plan on logging my run at the very least for my own knowledge. I'll keep you guys posted!

 

[Stryker1992]

No disrespect at all bro...you were not chosen because you are 21...test levels are still very high at that age and you should develop a lot naturally.

I am glad you are having great results.

I highly recommend the cyanostane. I didn't get chosen for logging any IML products so I bought a bottle anyway as a kickstart for my 10week test E cycle. I'm only 1 week in and the results are nothing short of phenomenal.
Stats 1 week ago:...these are numbers I try and hit for 2-3reps for my last set
Age 21
Weight 238lbs
Height 6'3"
Bench 395lbs x 2
Deadlift straight bar 505lbs x 3
Squat 465lbs x 2

Stats this week:
Age..yes I'm still 21
Weight 245lbs
Height 6'3"
Bench..hit 435lbs for 2 reps today
Deadlift 535lbs x 2
Squat 480 x 2

Now obviously I have been training and eating like a mad man, but I feel cyanostane has been awesome. I have a great drive in the weight room..focus, energy, and pumps are f***** phenomenal.

I can't wait for the next 4 weeks...to continue the cyanostane, and even more pumped to see what I can achieve at the end of week 10.

Id like to give a shout out to radar for initially logging the cyanstane because without reading that I probably would not have tried it out. But damn I'm glad I did.

Stats

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[machine23]

Good thread so far