Need Opinions

[SBruss]

I'm 18 years old, 5'10 and I've been working out for two year now. I have stoped growing at 150 lbs and I can't get past this point. I have about 8% bf. I was wondering if I should try steriods or keep working at it? If you think I should try gear could you please recomend me a good cycle? My goal is to weight around 175 lbs. Please give me your opinions. Thank you

 

[jubei]

Wait until you're 20. Eat alot more food and try focusing on back/chest/legs. You don't need steroids to weigh more than 150 lbs. @ 5'10.

 

[BoS*FLANKER]

Males don't completly stop grwoing until 21, i would wait until you were 20 or 21

 

[hammertime30]

I'm 18 years old, 5'10 and I've been working out for two year now. I have stoped growing at 150 lbs and I can't get past this point. I have about 8% bf. I was wondering if I should try steriods or keep working at it? If you think I should try gear could you please recomend me a good cycle? My goal is to weight around 175 lbs. Please give me your opinions. Thank you

If you are only 18 that means that you don't have all the knowledge needed to get pass 150lbs that comes with experience especially if you are an ecto. I guarantee that if you list your daily diet and your training log that i can find what you are doing wrong! Most of us at a young age think that just because we are lifting weights and eating a bunch of chicken and milk that we should be gaining serious muscle every week or so....Simply not true...I've seen too many young guys in the gym lifting with bad form and no plan and heard them say yeah eat Taco bell afterwards if you want to get some serious muscle growth...Anyway....list your daily diet in complete detail broken down into carbs, protein and fat and your training and lets see if we can fine tune what you need to get back growing again!

 

[marklm725]

bro, 18yrs old is just the beginning! i couldnt get over 170lbs until i was 20, and thru the military. After 20 i got up to 200lbs, trust me it will come just keep working at it and eat healthy! Try some creatine and glutamine.

 

[SBruss]

My training logs are: Day 1- chest-Flat Bench Press 8 sets, incline bench press 4 sets, Decline Bench press 4 sets, Flat Dumbbell Flyes 4 sets, Incline Barbell Press 4 sets, cable crossovers 3 sets. Triceps- Weighted dips 4 sets, overhead extensions 4 sets, skull crushers 4 sets, cable pushdowns 4 sets, and kickbacks 4 sets.
Day 2-Legs- front squats 6 sets, Leg Press 4 sets, Leg Extension 4 sets, Leg curl 4 sets, straight leg deadlifts 4 sets. Biceps- Standing barbell curls 4 sets, Alternating dumbell curls 4 sets, preacher curls (machine) 4 sets, hammer curls 4 sets, cable curls 4 sets, and concentration curls 4 sets. Day 3- Back- Pullups 3 sets, Bent over rows 4 sets, pulldowns (behind neck) 4 sets, Pulldowns ( in front) 4 sets, one arm dumbell rows 4 sets, seated rows 4 sets. Shoulders- Military Press (in front) 4 sets, Military Press (behind neck) 4 sets, Front dumbell raises 4 sets, side Dumbell laterals 4 sets, Rear dumbell laterals 4 sets, upright rows 4 sets, barbell shrugs 4 sets. I do as many reps as I can and add wieght to each set. I try to eat around 3000 healthy calories a day, I'm not sure what the break down of protien, carbs, and fat is so I will have to get back to you on that one.

 

[hammertime30]

My training logs are: Day 1- chest-Flat Bench Press 8 sets, incline bench press 4 sets, Decline Bench press 4 sets, Flat Dumbbell Flyes 4 sets, Incline Barbell Press 4 sets, cable crossovers 3 sets. Triceps- Weighted dips 4 sets, overhead extensions 4 sets, skull crushers 4 sets, cable pushdowns 4 sets, and kickbacks 4 sets.
Day 2-Legs- front squats 6 sets, Leg Press 4 sets, Leg Extension 4 sets, Leg curl 4 sets, straight leg deadlifts 4 sets. Biceps- Standing barbell curls 4 sets, Alternating dumbell curls 4 sets, preacher curls (machine) 4 sets, hammer curls 4 sets, cable curls 4 sets, and concentration curls 4 sets. Day 3- Back- Pullups 3 sets, Bent over rows 4 sets, pulldowns (behind neck) 4 sets, Pulldowns ( in front) 4 sets, one arm dumbell rows 4 sets, seated rows 4 sets. Shoulders- Military Press (in front) 4 sets, Military Press (behind neck) 4 sets, Front dumbell raises 4 sets, side Dumbell laterals 4 sets, Rear dumbell laterals 4 sets, upright rows 4 sets, barbell shrugs 4 sets. I do as many reps as I can and add wieght to each set. I try to eat around 3000 healthy calories a day, I'm not sure what the break down of protien, carbs, and fat is so I will have to get back to you on that one.

First of all you are overtraining which is why you're not seeing new gains...Secondly, 3000 cals is not enough for an ecto morph....You can get away with your current training regimen if you were cycling, but as a natural, you are living in the catabolic state! It looks like you're doing lots of exercises in 3 days...What do you do for the other 4 of the week? I need you to break down your cals so that I can go further into it...not trying to burn you dude, but already I can see that you have a lot to learn before cycling, but that's what this board is about...Learning!

Here is an example, you're doing side laterals and upright rows...why? Both exercises hit the same muscle in the exact same way so you are adding an extra exercise for no reason which ultimately will lead to overtraining the muscle. The shoulder only needs to be hit once in every angle. rear, front, middle. Rear military press good, dumb bell press is better than front barbell press because when you do incline bench press, you will also hit the front shoulder anyway. Side laterals and front laterals also good and shrugs are over kill for rear military press will also hit the traps, however you are doing way too many sets per exercise for a natural! When building mass, only focus on basic compound execises, all the other isolated exercises are to be used when sculpting after you've packed on mega size!

 

[Apexx]

hammer, I tried to hit you with some karma for helping the young buck out, but
I gotta spread some around first.

 

[SBruss]

After I do the three days of my program I take a day off and then do it again. So I do those exercises twice a week.

 

[hammertime30]

After I do the three days of my program I take a day off and then do it again. So I do those exercises twice a week.

All you need is to hit 1 bodypart every 7 days and get lots of rest and eat your ass off. It doesn't matter what day you start, but here is an example. All exercise reps should stay in the 6-8 range to complete muscle failure.

Mon - chest and triceps - Flat bench 3 sets, incline dumbbell press 3 sets, parallel dips 3 sets. Reverse tricep curls 2 sets, push downs 2 sets

Wed - Legs - Squats 4 sets, Dead lifts 4 sets, standing calf raises 4 sets

Friday - shoulders and abs - rear military press 3 sets, dumb bell press 3 sets, front laterals 2 sets, side laterals 2 sets. Cable crunches 3 sets, standing leg raises 3 sets.

Sat - Back and Biceps - wide grip pull ups 3 sets, bent over rolls 3 sets, seated vbar rows 3 sets. Barbell curls 2 sets, hammer curls 2 sets.

If using this training schedule, every Thursday do 100 push ups at home on your off day. If it takes 5 sets then so be it, but your goal is to do 100 push ups in the least amount of sets possible. This will build up your bench press power!

At your weight, even though I don't know your daily task, your BMR is around 2300-2500 cals. Meaning as an ectomorph, you need to take in at least 3500 cals or more a day to keep a positive nitrogen balance. Protein needs be around 260-300g. Essential fats need to be around 80-100g. (I intake around 130g of fat a day and bf % stays the same) and the rest should be complex carbs (at your weight 50-80g of simple carbs wouldn't hurt). If you see after 3 weeks that 3500 cals isn't enough then bump them up!

 

[Deleted member 33117]

My training logs are: Day 1- chest-Flat Bench Press 8 sets, incline bench press 4 sets, Decline Bench press 4 sets, Flat Dumbbell Flyes 4 sets, Incline Barbell Press 4 sets, cable crossovers 3 sets. Triceps- Weighted dips 4 sets, overhead extensions 4 sets, skull crushers 4 sets, cable pushdowns 4 sets, and kickbacks 4 sets.
Day 2-Legs- front squats 6 sets, Leg Press 4 sets, Leg Extension 4 sets, Leg curl 4 sets, straight leg deadlifts 4 sets. Biceps- Standing barbell curls 4 sets, Alternating dumbell curls 4 sets, preacher curls (machine) 4 sets, hammer curls 4 sets, cable curls 4 sets, and concentration curls 4 sets. Day 3- Back- Pullups 3 sets, Bent over rows 4 sets, pulldowns (behind neck) 4 sets, Pulldowns ( in front) 4 sets, one arm dumbell rows 4 sets, seated rows 4 sets. Shoulders- Military Press (in front) 4 sets, Military Press (behind neck) 4 sets, Front dumbell raises 4 sets, side Dumbell laterals 4 sets, Rear dumbell laterals 4 sets, upright rows 4 sets, barbell shrugs 4 sets. I do as many reps as I can and add wieght to each set. I try to eat around 3000 healthy calories a day, I'm not sure what the break down of protien, carbs, and fat is so I will have to get back to you on that one.

Holy shit. First of all, your routine is completely off for your bodytype. Did you get it out of muscle & fiction or flex magazine? Its looks like something out of theirs. Visit the training forum. Cut your volume way down. Do 4-5 heavy sets for each body part, no 20+ and train every body part twice a week.

3000 calories? Wow. How do you lift weights and not starve to death on that? Try 4000-4500 and get back with us on the breakdown of your diet. List out everything you eat, and I mean everything. I want to know how much mustard and mayo you put on your sandwiches. Your cals are too low and you probably have some large deficienies in your diet that will be spotted when you type it out.

Stay off the juice until you weigh over 200 lbs, and can bench 315 and squat 405 for reps.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

First of all you are overtraining which is why you're not seeing new gains...Secondly, 3000 cals is not enough for an ecto morph....You can get away with your current training regimen if you were cycling, but as a natural, you are living in the catabolic state! It looks like you're doing lots of exercises in 3 days...What do you do for the other 4 of the week? I need you to break down your cals so that I can go further into it...not trying to burn you dude, but already I can see that you have a lot to learn before cycling, but that's what this board is about...Learning!

Here is an example, you're doing side laterals and upright rows...why? Both exercises hit the same muscle in the exact same way so you are adding an extra exercise for no reason which ultimately will lead to overtraining the muscle. The shoulder only needs to be hit once in every angle. rear, front, middle. Rear military press good, dumb bell press is better than front barbell press because when you do incline bench press, you will also hit the front shoulder anyway. Side laterals and front laterals also good and shrugs are over kill for rear military press will also hit the traps, however you are doing way too many sets per exercise for a natural! When building mass, only focus on basic compound execises, all the other isolated exercises are to be used when sculpting after you've packed on mega size!

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[SBruss]

Sorry I'm out of town for a week so I will write my diet down when I get back.

 

[satchboogie]

rest assured you can grow much bigger than 150 pounds!!
spending 2 years in the gym doesnt mean shit.
i spent 6 years in college and dont remember shit.

its all about the quality of time you spend in there, and what you learn from it.

i see dudes that train for one year and they're jacked..
thats because from day 1 they took bb'ing very seriously and spent hours researching and learning as much as possible about the sport.

while others spend years fuckin around only to have bodies of a small child.

 

[hammertime30]

i spent 6 years in college and dont remember shit.

LOL....I feel the same way....I wish I can get a refund because I've asked myself after working in my field for 8 years now if I really needed college!